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I still like 130's for everything. They hit hard as far as you want to shoot the 270.
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hwy40 wrote: I still like 130's for everything. They hit hard as far as you want to shoot the 270.
i don't have any use for the real heavies in a .270, either. a 140ab was a consideration but with the 130 now out, i doubt i'd ever go there.
would be informative to run a side by side using the 130 partition and accubond in similar medium. see how the bullet held up. calculate trajectories from actual velocities and such. i doubt i'll ever get to it. i just don't see a partition purchase in my future for experiment sake.
no shame sticking with the 130's. they've proven to work for ya.
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http://scatrwd.com/Hunting_Schedule.html check tag price for the Chairmans Special Trophy Elk Tag that has been sold plus other tags their bull elk are in the high Boone & Crocket 300's into 400's .I buy the anterless elk tags $620.
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I can tell you flat out, that before I even come close to spending 25,000 on an elk tag, I will be booked for a Safari in Africa. Those would be some mighty high dollar elk steaks on a plate.
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The high dollar hunters wanting boone and crocket trophies to hang on their walls buy the $30,000 tags and they sell out every year,the spring $3500 elk tags also sell.Some guys arten't affected by the recession!
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hwy40 wrote: I still like 130's for everything. They hit hard as far as you want to shoot the 270.
Splat.
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I'd have to say that my favorite is not one I'm fortunate enough to own, a 338-06. I'm real fond of my 30-06, and my son's 8x57 is a real good one too with 200 gr bullets. I'd have to say that if I hunted the plains country of Oregon, I'd probably favor something like the 340 Wby. Where you hunt probably has a good deal to do with what you like best for a given species.
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Mark,I`d hav have to agree with your statement about where you hunt dictating much of your chambering needs..
and agree that the 340 Weatherby is a beast.
Good to seya in these parts btw
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"I still believe that a 30 cal would do the job on an elk out to 200 yards, maybe further. Yes it would be a magnum of some sort, thus this would be lighter round to handle."
I use my 30-06 with 165 grain bullets out to 400 yards. I stop there since it runs out of steam beyond that range. A magnum isn't necessary for 200+ yards, just for 500+ to insure enough pep to get the job done.
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This is an old thread. I liked an early post from 2005:
 Timber i believe the 338 Rem Ultra Mag is the best round you can use for Elk. The recoil is over stated and most can master it with a little practice . Just don't listen to all the hype about how bad they kick. It shoots as flat as most 30 cal and packs a lot more punch when it get there. I love 338 cal rifles and the elk hate them. With that said , i carry the lightest rifle i can find, regardless of cal and the good old 30-06 is hard to beat with 180 gr Part if you don't care for the big boomers.
The only update I might suggest would be the twin sister: 338 Lapua in a hunting rifle. If only CZ would make one in the sub-$1200 range. Until then, I would just suggest the tried and true 338 WM.
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I am new to handloading, now searching under rocks for my supplies, but I can faithfully say the swift-A-frame is hands on the best bullet I have used on an elk.
I have shot them with my .338 win mag ruger 77 mark II, 225 gr., and my browning bar 7mm rem mag, 160 gr (no longer made for 7mm rem mag), in the Remington Premier A-frame factory loads. EXPENSIVE!!!
Penetrating bone crushing knock down bullet. Period.
I will eventually try and hand load, but decided to try the Nosler Partions since they were available in 225 gr locally, and $25/box of 50 cheaper than the 250gr Swift A frames available.
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The Barnes 225 TTSX will outpenetrate the Nosler 225NP. So will the A-frame.
All three are great bullets, though Barnes and Nosler are better for price.
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the 30-06 w/180gr partition type bullet would be good for elk as would the .300 WinMag w/180gr appropriate bullet but would/should extend the range over the 30-06 load for retained energy & less drop. The 7mmRemMag is an excellent choice also with the 175gr bullet or even the 160gr, again in appropriate design.
For the record when most of you guys were probably pups still squatting to pee... Jack O'Conner really touted the .270 Win for almost anything...it is said HE made the .270 famous. I didn't notice any comments on the .280 Rem a near twin of the .270Wn.
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It all really depends on where your hunting i.e. who else might be hunting Elk or you : ) When hunting in Grizz country I prefer my 300 RUM, has more punch with a 220 than a 338 Rum with a 250. Otherwise if I'm hunting them locally I use a 270 with 130 or a 150 works great. As always It's were you hit them that counts
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I have shot elk with a 50 cal ML, 44mag carbine, .308, 30-06, 45-70, and 7mag. I have yet to see any differnece in killing ability with any of them .( about 38)
The ultimate elk cartridge is one that you can put the bullet where it needs to go.
Some guys brag on using the smallest legal cartridge with the lightest bullet and some brag on using the biggest shoulder thumper there is so they can " shoot'em from stem to stern." Then there is the majority that go hunting and kill an elk every year with boring 30-06, .308,.270's and the like. More often than not using Rem Cor Loks that were on sale at Walmart
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Saddlesore,
Nice to see you're still suckin' air. Good to see your mules too.
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300RUM wrote: It all really depends on where your hunting i.e. who else might be hunting Elk or you : ) When hunting in Grizz country I prefer my 300 RUM, has more punch with a 220 than a 338 Rum with a 250. Otherwise if I'm hunting them locally I use a 270 with 130 or a 150 works great. As always It's were you hit them that counts
Both the 300 RUM and 338 RUM are great cartridges, but physics requires us to give the "punch" award to the 338 RUM, when loaded to equal pressures in 'averaged' rifles. It's like the 270 30-06 debate, one has some diameter advantage, one can get a trajectory advantage at similar sectional densities. The 338 RUM has a diameter and momentum advantage, and the 300 RUM can get a trajectory advantage by shooting a lighter bullet. A person chooses which they want. If it's 'more punch' in Grizz country, then physics would give the nod to the 338 RUM. Close to 99% of shots from either will probably have the same results, in any case.
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I haven't taken as many elk as the guys who live in the mountains, but was an avid elk hunter and went every time I had a chance. I used a .300 Win. Mag. in fairly open country and a .338 Win Mag with a 21" bbl. in the heavy blow downs. The .338 hits very hard, but the 300 makes long range shots in the wind fairly easy for an old prairie dog shooter. Maybe the 8mm Rem. Mag. would be the ultimate, the best of both worlds.
A 200gr. bullet in a .300mag. would be excellant for sure, although I would feel adequately armed with any rifle in .270, 30/06 or 7mag. With standard cartridges I would avoid the shoulder and hip joints as they will normally stop a 30/06 bullet.
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