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I like the whalen but then I'm partial to 35's. I've done some moose hunting with .270 win and it's fine open county gun with 130 Barnes xlc's and 62gr H4831 I think it's the equal of any of the 300's ( actually more retained energy than 300 win mag nosler partition factory load @ 400yrds). A friend just traded a nice 7mm mag in (lost green big time) for 300 rum. It's over 9.5# with 26" tube. Like carrying that around all day? Not me it would be good for 1000yrd matches I told him or for the guy's who never get out there trucks when hunting.
Experience has taught me to keep shots close as possible get a lighter gun with a 22" barrel Thant's easy to carry and put a good 1.5x5 on it and chamber it for something you can shoot and practice without 25# bag of lead shot between you and it but still has the muscle to break big bones( a wounded moose always seem to find a swamp to mire themselves in and @ 1000#+ it can take all night to get it out, believe me I know).
Hey I got one here it's Ruger Hawkeye 358 win with 1.5x5 Leupold and IMHO it's perfection for simi open timber hunting and hits out to 300yrds are easy, with 250 speers at 2350 it duplicates nominal 35 whelen factory 250 ammo and in a little liter package. The tylor TKO factor is really close to 338 win mag with out the abuse. Think about it. Last edited on Wed Aug 5th, 2009 08:04 PM by cloverleaf
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I was lucky enough to get drawn for a moose in Maine, it requires two shooters. My dad used a 7mmRemMag, and I used the 444Marlin with a 300gr RFNGC...the 7mmRemMag wasn't needed as he was dead before hitting the ground!
Moose are pretty easy to dispatch when they don't know it's coming, but they can be deadly when they feel threatened! Or when that bull is a cow and has a youngin'!!
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I had to vote in the bigger category even though my rifle has a .375" bore. My moose gun would be my .375 Taylor, a .338 Win. mag. case necked up to .375 caliber. properly loaded and it will duplicate the .375 H&H ballisitcally in a standard 30-06 length action. Rifle wss built on a tang safety Ruger M77, 22" Douglas barrel, the barreled action sitting in a (GASP) Ramline synthetic stock with an old Weaver El Paso 4X scope with post and crosshair reticle. Total package weighs 7.5 pounds with full magazine and sling. Recoil is there but fels no worse than either of my two .338 Win. mags which I just may sell off and keep the wildcat Taylor. I'll keep the.338 Mag. brass to neck up for the Taylor although it's a heck of a lot easier to neck down .458 Win. mag. brass. I've even made some from 7MM Rem. mag brass but that way takes several steps with annealing between the steps.
I like the round.
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I think a real man could take a moose with 8 foot wooden spear with a bronze head on it. So that method counts me out.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19th, 2009 07:01 PM |
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I drew my first Maine bull moose tag this year. I have been working on loads for several months. I'm on my wife's moose tag and three of us will also be black bear hunting on the same trip. My primary rifles for moose are a 300 WSM, using barnes 168 gr TSX @ 3050 and 200 gr TSX at 2720 hitting at the same point of impact at 100 yards.
The rifle that will be in my hands when calling is a marlin 444, with 300 gr beartooth bullets with a wide meplat. I've only loaded them to 2060 fps but they should penetrate bow to stern at almost any angle  . They literally shake the large mounds that I've been shooting them in. The 300 WSM doesn't make a hole that is as impressive. For shots over 175 yards I'll use the 300 WSM. The hunt begins next week, I haven't slept much in over a month  , I can't wait for this hunt to start.
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I voted for the .338, but the only moose i have taken was shot with a .300 win mag and 180 gr. TBBC. He went about 75 yds., when we dressed him there was at least 10 gallons of blood in his chest. The .300 is plenty of gun for moose IMHO.
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I have to sit back and look at what we are using to kill these very large creatures. It wasn't that long ago that many of these magnum and super magnum calibers didn't exist and what few there were seemed to have been reserved to the wealthy, such as the H & H and NE calibers, Roy Weatherby start putting out his magnum rifle not that long ago, O.K. he was in his break thru period back in the late 1940s and then came out with his own rifle action in 1957. That seems to be a couple of decades ago to me.
What did people use for hunting Moose and many other large animals long ago? I have seen picture of big game hunters who used, military rifles, some sporterized and some changed into dramatic cartridges, like the 8-06. Mauser, Enfield and Springfield rifles were heavily surplus into the sporting world after both World Wars, so there have been plenty of basic rifles to work with for a very long time. Back in the 60s I bought a Mauser 98K from Sears for something like $30. Modern rifles from the military don't make their way into the surplus market that we as hunter have access to. I really can't see using an M4 for big game hunting and I think Bazookas have long been out of military service for a good while.
But imagine that you have a 30-06 Springfield or a 8mm Mauser round to use for big game hunting. Many hunters did use them. My great uncle Walter between the 2 world wars used to work for a couple years and then go on safari or expedition some where on the planet, then he would come home and work for a couple of years to do it all over again. He had many very powerful rifles that are legendary these days. He also had a very nicely sporterized 1903 Springfield in 30-06 that he carried in many places where he found big game.
Bullets in Thai era were basically military bullets and cast bullets. Scopes were very crude by todays standards, but people still were taking big game with these basic rifles.
Lets get back tot he time that buffaloes were being hunted in mass quantities, they were using black powder cartridge rifles in some big and large calibers, like 50-90, 50-110 and still a favorite the 45-70 Government. There were many other calibers out then, some in rolling block rifles and some in repeaters, but these rifles were taking big game thru out the world. Before that era, muzzle loaders were being used to take big game.
The reason for the modern calibers is a simple, more human hunting practices, you don't have to run an animal or follow it for miles. Most just don't immediately drop over dead, but a few do.
So what do I use for Moose hunting, 300 Remington Ultra Mag, with a 180gr or 200 gr Barnes or A Squared bullet, in a Rem 700 with a Leupold scope on it. What does my "First Nation" guide carry? A Winchester Mod 70 in 30-06, no scope and factory ammo. He has never had to shoot while we were hunting in northern Quebec. I follow sound hunting methods and work my prey up to my advantage.
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Smokes I forgot I had this post here! Moose season for me opens This sunday and I am going to be shooting my 300 win with 220 Hornady's I loaned my Whelen to one of my friend's for his moose hunt this year as he will be hunting in some nasty country with lots of water and swampy ground and he wanted more thump than his 308 delivers. Fingers crossed that we both tag one.
For Moose Fat 200 grain partitions Winchester brass Winchester primers 57 grains H-4831 2540 Fps out of a 24" tube groups 1 to 1-1/2 inches not the longest range load but it does not kick you out from under your hat either. There are a pile of great bullets out there now days but partitions have never let me down nore have accubonds since I have been using them either. As always consult a couple of manuals starting low and work up.
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Darn, I wish I still lived in Alberta. It's been 20 years, I need a vacation for a good Moose hunt!
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I've shot quite a few moose, and i voted for the 30-06. "Properly loaded" and at reasonably ranges, the 30-06 is enough for any animal in NA, including brown bears.
IF i was going to use a magnum, it would be the 7mm Rem. Mag., loaded with 175NP's.
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I voted 30 06 thinking of hunting her in the northeast Alaska I would step up to the 300 Mag can't argue her performanse with a 200 or 220 grain bullet.
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I do not recommend this but , among some of the eskimo's it is common practice to use a .223 on moose and other large critters and very effectively.
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woodsman777 wrote: I do not recommend this but , among some of the eskimo's it is common practice to use a .223 on moose and other large critters and very effectively.
This is true about the "natives", but they also don't look very hard for something that doesn't fall right down either. I've seen this more than once, with my own eyes.
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Just to clear something up, there are no moose where the "true" eskimo's live, and they don't like being called eskimo's either.
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I've only taken one moose, used .300 Win. mag w/ 180 Trophy Bonded Bear Claw. It did a bang-up job. But I prefer the .338 Win mag, but would stick with a heavy bonded-core bullet.
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The moose don't like being called eskimos???
These people are the Inuits, Yupiks and some how related the Aleuts. Canada gave these people their own "province" (it's really just a territory, but a big one), Nunavut. I have been there twice, great place to hunt.
These people hunt with rifles that came from better times and except for a few spots, they really don't have moose.
This is a great wilderness, it is beautiful and think about the land mass of Europe with 25, 000 or so people. If you don't speak French, don't worry they probably don't either.
If you want to go moose hunting, try central Quebec.
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