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416 Rigby (450 grain Woodleighs)

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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 03:21 AM

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Hello everyone.

I recently purchased some 450 grain RNSN Woodleigh's for my 416. Has anyone reloaded with these.

On another website, they sell them and claim velocities at 2150 fps.

I'm looking for starting powder (type and weight) suggestions. I have been using RL-22 (but have others available) for use.

Thanks in advance.

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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 01:39 AM

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I have not seen any clients bringing them to Tanzania.

Have not heard about them much.

My personal feeling is that the 400 grain is sooooo effective out of the 416's, the 450's better be darn impressive for me to consider recommending them to my clients.

I would say out of the Rigby and Weatherby the 450's could be pushed faster than 2150 fps, but don't really know (but guessing, as the 458 Lott easily will push a 500 grain at 2150 fps and the Rigby and Wby. have more case capacity than the Lott).

Sorry, don't have any load data for you. However, when you get some and start reloading them, keep us up to date with your results (that includes photos of whatever you shoot with it).

Thanks.

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Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 05:19 AM

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Thanks for the feedback.

When I bought my 416, I went a bit crazy and bought a bunch of bullets/brass.

In the frenzy, I purchased some:
A-Frame Lion Load -400 gr
A Frame Dead Tough -400 gr

Like you have mentioned, 400 gr is alot of bullet.

My goals are to hunt bear (Black or Brown bear) moose and maybe elk. Based on these North American ambitions, which of these A-frames would you use? The lion loads are for thin skinned game but is a bonded bulet. Is the Lion load too soft or should onlyuse them for target practice? I'm not concerned about pelt damage but do hunt for meat. With that said, I like one shot kills where the animal doesn't go very far (eg: like a moose into a deep swamp) and there is something to eat when the animal recovered.

I have a bunch of bullets. If it were you, would the A-frames be suitable or would you use something different? (Woodleigh 400 gr SP, SPeer 350 gr Mag Tip, Speer 400 gr Bear Claw, Nosler Partition)?

Thanks again.

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Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 01:01 PM

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Spenard,

The Lion loads are pretty soft, soft points.

The Dead toughs are very good, as are Swift A-Frames, Woodleighs, Trophy Bonded Bear Claws, and the Noslers are not too bad either.

I would say if not hunting DG with your rifle, I would choose the Noslers for animals you are going to want to put down straight away . . . . . (eg: like a moose into a deep swamp). They are the softest of the bunch listed above and will give you good performance.

The others listed above are very good on Buffalo as they hold together very well and have deep penetration and weight retention.

The would for sure work for Moose, but would be more likely to pass through . That being said, they would be an excellent choice for Moose as well. They double in caliber and retain almost all of their weight.

I shoot Swift's out of my 458 Lott and Woodleigh's from my double. Both are excellent and I have never seen either one of them fail (nor any from my clients).

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