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 Posted: 19 August 2008 11:52 PM

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Phil, I probably don't know this type of rifle as well as you and the others.  It is still a dream of mine.  That said, wouldn't I just mount the scope farther forward.  I got the idea for the shorter LOP from my AR.  Sure I can pull the stock out to "5", but about "3" or "4" is much quicker to the shoulder.  I do have to keep the scope foreward a bit.  All in all, it is just to make the rifle quicker to the shoulder.  Whenever I work with long LOP guns, I can't pull them to my shoulder quick.  When I say long, I mean the ideal length for arm position, etc.

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 Posted: 20 August 2008 03:25 PM

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magna- porting doesn't increase muzzle blast near as much as a muzzle brake. i had my .458 magna- ported and am very happy with it. it does help keep the muzzle down and reduces recoil some allowing for much faster repeat shots and improved accuracy from field positions, ie. off-hand. i really can't tell the difference in muzzle blast although i know there has to be some. sadly, although I've hunted Africa with this rifle i can't say from experience how it would do as a stopping rifle. i am glad i didn't have to find out.



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 Posted: 21 August 2008 12:19 AM

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I would agree with the comments about magnaporting.  It is kind of like magic and doesn't have the muzzle blast of a true brake. 

I have a muzzle brake on a 375 JDJ and it wakes up the whole county, but it has an amazing ability to keep the barrel down.

I have magnaporting on a snub nose 357 mag.  It does better than I would expect 2 little holes to do without any more excessive blast or noise.  The little 2.25" barrel has quite a bit of that on it's own.  I have shot others w/o and I couldn't tell the difference in blast, but recoil was a bit better.

 

For  a dangerous game rifle, I would use weight and mercury recoil reducers over a muzzle device.  A 12 lb rifle can be carried all day.  I do it. 

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 Posted: 21 August 2008 02:14 AM

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My S&W 340 PD is MagnAPorted, and it helps alot with such a small 357 Mag.

 

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 Posted: 21 August 2008 02:31 AM

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nksmfamjp wrote:
wouldn't I just mount the scope farther forward.  I got the idea for the shorter LOP from my AR.

A 458 is not an AR. The recoil is just a bit stiffer. You use a short LOP and you will have a new outline of the scope where your eyebrow used to be, I think.
And take from me . . . . . . . it really hurts.

You can only move the scope so far forward.



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 Posted: 21 August 2008 02:36 AM

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Phil,

 

I agree with you on this, you only have so much practical space.

Jerry



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