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I have been shooting at G' Hogs all summer with my Mossberg M45 and my Ruger 10/22, this is from 100 to 140 yards. Stndard ammo, nothing hot. I know I have hit a few, but they run away. Today I found one that didn't make back to his hole. One good clean hit, but I found where another bullet hit him a while ago. The entrance wound had started to heal.
Should I start using my AR in 223 or my Marlin 336 in 30-30 for these critters? I want a blow a hole thru the critter and make it dead type of shooting.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2009 01:13 AM |
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I think you answered your own question.I hate shooting any animal and it getting away wounded.In the 60's i hit a few p'dogs at that distance with a 22lr stevens favorite,but when they go down the hole,you dont know.In the 80's I was tired of loosing coons and such with my 22 single six and bought one in 32 mag.The aquila 60 gr subsonic ammo might be better.I have never tried it but hope to.Maybe you have a good reason to get a 22 hornet and load it with cast?
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| Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2009 01:31 AM |
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I remember as a kid going up in Maine Groundhogs could get quite large. Not sure if I'd be allowed to take shots at those distances(dad was a freak about getting close to your quarry). I always got to within 50yards with the .22lr(it's all I had at that age).
Fortunately(or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it) we don't have those critters down here in Arkansas. They can be hard on a garden, and I'm already battling Mother Nature and her heat!
I'd think about upgrading to a 22KHornet, maybe a T/C Contender with a 21" barrel and some nice soft lead gas checked projectiles. The .223Rem might be overkill at the distances your seeing targets(but hey, I own a 50BMG, so I guess overkill is a word I shouldn't use)!
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| Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2009 03:33 AM |
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I am thinking of using my 221 Fireball Contender, or get the Mini 30 out.
I am getting a loaner on a Barrett in .416 Barrett to try out. As that my longest stretch for straight line shooting is about 300 yards, the Barrett would be gross over kill, in short my kind of gopher gun.
It's just another Friday night in Somerton.
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wheezengeezer wrote: I think you answered your own question.I hate shooting any animal and it getting away wounded.In the 60's i hit a few p'dogs at that distance with a 22lr stevens favorite,but when they go down the hole,you dont know.In the 80's I was tired of loosing coons and such with my 22 single six and bought one in 32 mag.The aquila 60 gr subsonic ammo might be better.I have never tried it but hope to.Maybe you have a good reason to get a 22 hornet and load it with cast?
WG, the Aguila 60gr SSS ammmo is very accurate at 50 and 100 yards. The drawback is that you have to use a 1-in-9 twist barrel to do it. I ordered one from Brownells for what was then $175.00.. .960" dia x 18.5" 4X scope with a two diameter crosshair. I sighted it dead nuts at 50, and hold the larger crosshair tip for 100.
I'll visit my friend northeast of Denver next week who has 53 acres and a prairie dog population. He can take care of the longer shots with his .17 Hummer..
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I do have my 17 HMR, sort of forgot about it.
I need to make sure the scope is sighted in for at least 100 yards, so tomorrow I will have a day at the range. Sure glad I can walk to it. 
Jerry
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| Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2009 06:09 AM |
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I may get the Marlin 336 out, the 30-30 is iron sights and the 35 Rem is scoped, both have impressive range to out beyound 100 yard for pests. One momma hog was a little over 30 pounds.
Plus I have the Ranch Dog mnolds for both rounds.
Decisions, decisions.
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Try a .270 Win. with a 90 grn. Speer TNT pill. If that doesn't do the trick then try the Army Navy surplus for Claymores...very effective.
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I got good with my Marlin Model 25..Finally tried the CCI stingers and found I could still hit with enough authority to kill clean on rabbits and groundhogs..
Groundhogs were crappy to eat but my dad liked em..
Rabbits on the other hand were a delicacy in my eyes..Fried in butter,rolled in flour...I`d eat every one I could kill..
I shot squirrels for the table as well but I didn`t like em as much as rabbit..My granny made dumplings out of em that were good.
Rabbits and squirrels got head shots..Groundhogs,didn`t really care.They got in my grannys garden really bad so I`d shoot em with papaws 30-06 or my uncles 30-30..or papaws single shot remington,pull the pin back 22 lr.I don`t know the model number of it but it was old...
The real fun of shooting groundhogs to me though was in the hay fields where farmers would let me hunt the nuisance and cattle pasture where they were a cow crippler with their holes.
I`d always scout a place and look for active holes,they liked feeding on the edge of woodlines as well and would return to the safety of their holes is spooked.
I`d find me a good spot to shoot prone and push the distance as far as I could with a 22lr at that time..Nothing like the 'thwap" of a 22lr at 100 yards plus on a whistle pig..
good times,seems like a 1000 years ago now.
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miestro_jerry wrote: I do have my 17 HMR, sort of forgot about it.
I need to make sure the scope is sighted in for at least 100 yards, so tomorrow I will have a day at the range. Sure glad I can walk to it.
Jerry
I thought your bench was on the edge of your back deck.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 15th, 2009 03:32 PM |
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I have two shoot positions, one is from the deck and the other is a shooting bench that is 100 meters from the backstop.
From the deck it is 148 meters to the backstop. I have a full service backyard.
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High velocity .22's are the way to go for the yardages you mentioned ( .221 fb or .223). 17 hmr should do well out to 100 yards or so. Back in the 60's and 70's I did a lot of grounghog hunting in southern Illinois. Most, shot with .22LR got in their holes., .222 was very effective out to 225 yards, after that they frequently got in their hole. I've only seen the 17 hmr used on prairie dogs, so really don't know for sure, but I used a .22 magnum, for a while one summer, killed around 125 with it. The .22 mag. did well out to about 125 yards, after that they normally got in their holes. They are a pretty tough animal for their size. Last edited on Sun Aug 16th, 2009 04:55 PM by swampshooter
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Wounded rodents usually become table food for the hole mates,out here in calif our ground squirrels drag the recently shot squirrels back into the burrow .Friends have shot them and gone to the burrow finding nothing but some blood spots.
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Groundhogs are big enough that you normally see them go back in the hole and except when raising young normally live alone.
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I got two this afternoon with my Mini 30, one at 75 yards and the other at about 115 yards. Both were dead before they finished fliping over.
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