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The Doc said I have this. I didn't have any really bad symptoms, just feeling a little sluggish and run down lately. He put be on 500 MG. of Metformin twice daily. I felt better 2 days later! I just hope this doesn't get worse in time. I have no history of Diabetes in any of my family. I've never been a "sweetaholic" so staying away from a high sugar diet isn't a problem. We'll see what happens. At least I feel 10 times better. Bill T.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26th, 2007 12:09 PM |
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Billt, I have been a diabetic for over 30 yrs. and you need to check your Blood sugar 2 or 3 times as day as you are taking the pill. I was on the same dose and it got worst over time so ALL I CAN SAY IS WATCH IT CLOSELY
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26th, 2007 02:49 PM |
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Your's is not an uncommon problem, in fact the type of onset diabetes you've indicated is very much on the rise. I am grateful that yours was detected early enough that it can be treated in the manner you've indicated. Diet and exercise are the key component of care and you will of course need to keep a close watch on how your medication is working to control your blood sugar. I have worked with a number of public safety personnel with varying degrees of diabetes and they have all done well with their conditions, not allowing anything to slow them down. My background has also included training and certification as an EMT-IV and I've helped in the treatment of as well as met many diabetics. Inquisitive, strong willed people like yourself always exceed expectations of treatment
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26th, 2007 06:55 PM |
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When this was detected I got a prescription for one of those, "One Touch Ultra" blood sugar monitors, but as of yet I haven't used it. I have to go back and get my blood tested in a couple of weeks. This stuff is all new to me and I'm not in love with the fact I've got to start poking myself 3 or more times a day with this damn thing. It came with a CD on how to use it, and after this weekend, (I work weekend nights), I'm going to watch it and get the ball rolling with this thing. I'm also going to start excersizing more, and watch what I eat a little more carefully. Melanie is really watching what she prepares for us, and we rarely eat out at restraunts. This is going to change my lifestyle a bit, but it could always be worse. At least thats what I keep telling myself. Bill T.
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You'll be fine. its entirely possible that over time as you adjust your diet and exercise your doctor may either reduce or eliminate your medication. This is very common with individuals with onset diabetes, especially if they are in a position where they could stand to drop a few pounds. Give yourself time to see how things progress and maintain a positive outlook. If your workplace has an on duty nurse than they should be able to walk you through everything you need to know, if not let us know, I can hook you up bro.
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Thanks. There is a fellow I work with who has the same thing, so I might just take it to work and he can show me. I didn't realize this was so common. The problem is that in addition to this Metformin, I'm also taking Plavix, Asprin, and Zocor, (high Cholesterol), from a stent I had put in a little over a year ago, and it's really a pain in the ass to balance everything. I just can't swallow everything at once. I've never had to take medication on a daily basis. I guess I'll have to get used to it. I don't have much of a choice. Bill T.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27th, 2007 02:59 AM |
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Bill, I hope someone has educated you on the effects of low blood sugar. I was on metformin for about 6 months after an experience almost identical to yours. This stuff fools your body into making more insulin and can push your blood sugar so low you'll crash. Literally! If you start feeling dizzy, flushed, or if your ears are ringing you need to test your sugar NOW. If you are below 70-75 you could go into shock. You need to carry some hard candy to suck on to bring it back up immediately. Orange juice or honey also work well. When I was on Metformin and just around the office everything was fine, but if I was active at all I was constantly "low". Turkey Hunting was a 6 Twinkie or Rice Krispie treat day. Best part of this for me was that I dropped from 345 pounds to 285 while on the stuff. I'm a still a big guy at 6"4" but now I no longer need any meds to control my diabetes and can even sneak in a cookie or two without getting my sugar levels out of line. Biggest thing was giving up high test pop for diet. Testing is a pain in the ass as well as the finger but it pays off big time. The more you test the quicker you'll learn to manage your diet. My doctor told me that I could either lose 50 pounds or he'd start taking it off alittle at a time starting with my toes. By the time the diabetic circulation problems got up to my knees he'd have the 50 pounds one way or the other. He's one straight talkin SOB but the best doc I've ever had. RD
PS. Don't be surpized if the Metformin gives you the most bodacious flatulence you've ever had. It affects a lot of people that way. Now at lest you've got an excuse.
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Rockydog,
No one has educated me on crap about this. I've gotten more information on this forum than I have from my doctor. The more I learn, the more confused I get! I'm a little ticked at my doctor. The more I read and listen to people about this, the more I am starting to realize this isn't something you spend 5 minutes with a patient on, write him a prescription, and send him out the door on his merry way, which is basicly what he did. He never even mentioned one word about diet. He did say that in spite of taking Zocor, I still have high triglicerydes which the Metaformin was also supposed to help lower. That is what todays medicine has evolved into. Next, next, next, all at whatever the cost of a visit is minus the damn $30.00 co-pay. Next time I go back in a couple of weeks, he's going to get asked a lot of questions. I'll bring notes if I have to. Bill T.
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Bill, If you are going to get a handle on this you need to see a registered dietician. If you have health insurance their fees are covered at the same rates as doctor visits. They will educate you on everything about diabetes. The most important thing is to address your carb intake. My initial limit was set at 60 Carbs per meal. Which isn't much. Any sugars or sugar containing products are the enemy as are potatoes and white flour. Whole grain breads and pastas break down much slower in your system and level out the blood sugar over longer periods. Low fat proteins and green veggies provide a good basic diet. Some fruits can get you in trouble in a hurry. Especially canned fruits in syrups. Start reading labels on everything and pretty soon you'll get a good feel for what you can and can't have. You'll get used to the testing. After a while you'll even get so your fingers aren't sore. I rotate with the fingers on my right hand. I play guitar and my left hand callouses are tough to get a sample from. As for your doctor he ought to be shot. This stuff is dangerous if you don't know how to monitor it. Find a new one if possible. Ask for an A1C test. This determines your blood sugar levels over the last 6 months. My doctor insists that I get one every 6 months so he can tell if I'm cheating or if my condition is changing. RD Last edited on Sun Jan 28th, 2007 06:17 AM by Rockydog
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+1 on RDs recommendation to see a dietician, my insurance plan would not cover it, but I had a dietician friend who helped me out on my cholesterol. Life style changes such as the one you are entering are difficult at first, but over time as you adjust and learn you don't even notice them. On a side not, not all cholesterol medications are the same, ask questions and find out about other products. I take Zetia and with diet and exercise it has very well for me, but all medications such as this have inherent risks and you must have frequent bloodworks done. Its good to see that your mad now because that means your not going to take any nonsense from doctors.
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you are not alone on this one I am in the boat with you, I take the same meds you do, I test my blood twice daily, if you are hunting or doing physical work be cautious because your blood glucose will fall like a rock, dont play with this stuff it has bad endings if you dont get it under control, it killed my older brother at 55 after 5 amputations, I have had it for a year now, its not that hard to control and live with.
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I was told last month that I was early stage type two diabetic and went on the web and found a place that said to take Water soluble cinnamon. I tried it and from the first day saw a very large drop in my blood sugar!! I talked to a nurse who specialises in diabetes and she oked it.It might sound odd but I will be taking it every day from now on.It can be found in drug stores and heathfood stores.Give it a try and good luck.
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Thanks Chris! My wife picked up some 500 MG. Capsules at GNC this morning. I'll start on them and see what happens. Thanks again! Bill T.
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I am gonna try that myself. I am not happy taking metformin, what I find is if I do any physical exertion I am way low on my blood glucose level next time I test, a 61 is scary and I think if I am out hunting where I have to backpack my climber stand a long ways, climb, hunt, climb down, pack out again I am way out of steam by the time I get to the truck, I think its do to the low glucose (blood sugar) I take a relatively small dose of metformin, 500mg once a day and a normal day my glucose level is around 100, I am working on getting off the stuff and control it with my diet alone
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Chris,
How many MG's of Cinnamon do you take in a 24 hour period? My blood sugar level is currently around 140 with a 500 MG dose of Metaformin twice daily. Bill T.
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The dosage on the bottles I have is 2- 500 mg capsules per day , with a meal but I am a very large man- 6feet 2inches and 385 so I take an extra one once a day.It does help-my bloodsugar had been as high as 171 2 hours after a meal but has been as low as 112 with the pill.
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With Metaformin, and Melanie cooking good meals that we got from a dietitian, mine is now around 103 to 110 an hour after eating. A much needed improvement. I'm taking the Cinnamon as well. Thanks for the tip. Bill T.
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Bill, Congrats on the progress. Get yourself one of the pocket guides for carbs and fat to carry with you. It'll tell you how many carbs in a Big Mac vs a Whopper. How many in a Michelobe Ultra vs a Miller Lite etc. Great when you are on the road. RD
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I had a little high blood sugar a few years ago. Brought it under control with exercise, and a few diet modifications. I basicly cut out most of the starches. I cut back on the potatoes, bread, most pastas, and cut back on my sugar intake. That crap is in everything! My blood sugar was fixed within three months and I feel great. I still have some extra pounds to loose and my high BP is in control enough that my DR. has reduced my meds. for that problem. I am 51 if that maters. S.Shooter.
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Bill T.......Yep, I can understand the run down feeling! I too have been told by 3 doctors that I am indeed a diabetic now at my age. Geez! What next hey, you got to be darn tuff to get old my Pappy used to say.
I lost 40 pounds and that helped a bunch. I cut down on portition sizes, wife got smaller dinner plates etc. I no longer go back for a second helping either. I take the same medication you are on and it took affect after 2 weeks. My blood sugar stays around the 120-140 mark and that is good. However, I do have those days when I just don't feel worth two cents and usually my bloodsugar dropped and then it is eat some fruit and take a nap.
The one thing you MUST do is monitor your bloodsugar!!! The first 2 months I was doing this 4 times a day, now down to twice a day, I get a reading before breakfast and prior to eating supper. Hope all works out for you and watch what you eat and how much OK.
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