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wolfkill
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Posted: 10 April 2007 08:12 PM |
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Ok I can understand the concept of the the allen wrench being softer than the screw but if I can't tighten down the screw properly before it turns to mush what good is it?
I'm trying to install a scope base on an air gun rail. The actual scope base is very heavy duty with nice big fat screws and the supplied allen wrench worked fine there but...the scope base stop is a separate piece that goes behind, the idea being it will absorb the pounding the air gun gives.
The supplied allen wrench mushed out very fast. I took my rotozip and cut off about 1/8 inch to get a fresh bite again but no go.
As you can see the screw is still good but the wrench is mush.
Who makes good quality SMALL allen wrenches? I googled up nothing.
Last edited on 10 April 2007 08:23 PM by wolfkill
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Posted: 10 April 2007 08:49 PM |
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The small screwdriver sets sold by Hilti, Dillon, Sears, and others usually have good quality bits, including hex and torx. Except for the torx drivers included in Leopold mount and ring packages, EVERY tool included in a package deal is suspect to me. Often it is Chinese junk, too soft to be workable.
Buy drivers from Midway or Brownells, and you shouldn't have any problems.
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Posted: 10 April 2007 11:12 PM |
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Wolfkill.....
If you want hi-end allen wrenches... buy Bondus or Allen brand. I use the dickens out of them daily. And I use them with hardened screws.
Any allen wrench will eventually roll the corners off.... but these seem to last longer them most.
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Posted: 11 April 2007 02:32 AM |
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You can always heat treat your cheap wrench? Blow-torch and a cup of water....
Scott (blowtorches are fun) B
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Posted: 11 January 2008 09:22 PM |
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I know this post is a little old but...... I work in the HVAC/R industry and nowadays almost everything is held together with allens and Torx head fasteners. After going through a lot of different drivers, I finally found Malco brand t-handle allen wrenches that have lasted well over a year, with daily use, and there's no sign of twist or stripping on any of them. I was hesitant when I bought them, but they haven't failed me yet, and I'm no saint when it comes to abusing tools.
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wolfkill
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Posted: 12 January 2008 02:18 AM |
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Not an old post to me hardjeepguy.
Hey off subject but on our sister forum someone saying Mitt Romney running ad's up there saying he stood up to the NRA.
You hearing those ad's in the big MA?
What did you see with Mitt running your State? You can send me a PM if you prefer to not get political...worried about being a new guy and all.
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Posted: 12 January 2008 02:17 PM |
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| Back to the allen wrenches. Most suppliued allen wrenches are pretty poor quaity, meant to besued once or twice and then chucked. Definitely Bondus or Alen are superior. What is not generally known is that usually by stipulating socket headed screws, one automaticaly gets high strength 180K psi yield . That is why you need better allen wrenches than say a std screw driver of hex head wrench qaulity. Generally you can put more torque on the hardware. Torx screws increase it even more
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Posted: 13 January 2008 03:47 PM |
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wolfkill wrote: Not an old post to me hardjeepguy.
Hey off subject but on our sister forum someone saying Mitt Romney running ad's up there saying he stood up to the NRA.
You hearing those ad's in the big MA?
What did you see with Mitt running your State? You can send me a PM if you prefer to not get political...worried about being a new guy and all.
I didn't see any of the ads, as I don't watch much TV. I try to stay out of political discussions for the simple fact that I think they are all liars and cheats, and it only frustrates me to death. To me, voting is simply trying to pick out the least evil person to put in office. I've seen it too may times where campaign promises are made, and once in office they get to their "real" agenda.
By the way, did you find a decent set of wrenches to get the job done?
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wolfkill
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Posted: 13 January 2008 04:47 PM |
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No.
I did buy a set with a lifetime warranty but they rounded out too. Take a look at the 5/32 wrench it mushed out.
Guess I'll try sdb777 idea of heat and water.
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Posted: 13 January 2008 05:06 PM |
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WoW! Sorry about your bad luck. Does the wrench fit tightly in the socket head? That should not be happening specially with those good wrenches. Any possibility that the socket head is tapered, driving the wrench upwards as you apply pressure? After that, I'm fresh out of suggestions.
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Posted: 14 January 2008 04:32 AM |
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| Wolf, Perhaps the scope mount has METRIC sized screw heads! Unless allen wrenches fit exactly they will round off corners very easily. I've got a set of metrics as well as standards and very seldon round one off. In fact the smaller sizes usually snap near the bend before they round off. RD
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Posted: 25 April 2008 06:31 AM |
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| I have an older set from sears and I've purchased some from Midway & Dillon bondhaus hex key sets and the set for my RL550B with bracket to attach it to the loader! Last edited on 25 April 2008 06:34 AM by scr83jp
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