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wolfkill
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Posted: 13 August 2007 02:52 AM |
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Seems to be a lot of ten year old Greek 30-06 hitting the market. The price seems fair.
Is there steel in the bullet?
Any good?
Yaaa...it's in black and I like it that way.
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bea175
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Posted: 29 August 2007 04:28 PM |
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First off , why would you want to run the cheap import military stuff in such a beautiful rifle? With that said , most military stuff has a steel core in the bullet but if jacketed it shouldn't really make a difference. The corrosive primer may be your biggest problem with some imported ammo. Personally i wouldn't shoot anything in your rifle i wasn't sure about. 
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sako06
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Posted: 10 September 2007 12:20 AM |
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| If it's boxer primed and contains ball ammo it should be ok Dillon has carried it previously and I've picked by Berdan primed 06 ammo for my garand.You have to remember our 06 rifles ended up in many countries around the world and those countries loaded their own ammo for them ie Korea,Denmark,Greece,etc.
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wolfkill
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Posted: 10 September 2007 09:14 AM |
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I picked up 500 rnds. The primer has one heck of a crimp in it I thought. And despite it being advertised as 10 years old ammo looks like I got 30 year old stuff which I'm sure it's OK. I do have 40 year old 30-06 DCM LC ammo that works fine.
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sako06
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Posted: 10 September 2007 03:46 PM |
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| I still have a couple of hundred rounds of 1942 & 1943 Denver Armory 30-06 ammo that was loaded for MG & shipped to Canada in linkbelt. I bought 5 800 round cases at Fed Ord in S. El Monte,Ca in the 80's for about $90 per case.Every 5th round was removed because it was a tracer.My GS told me this was the best brass made in WW2 & I believe him, it's very reloadable after removing the primer with a Wilson Punch & then removing the primer pocket crimp with the Wilson crimp remover.We used the ammo in our DCM approved garand matches but it has corrosive primers so we washed the rifle barrels after firing to remove the salt.My ammo has a full gilding metal jacket over a lead core the only ones with a Tungsten Steel Core are the Black Tipped bullets.I've pulled a few that were given to me removed the gilded jacket & lead to get to the penetrator which makes a great punch for drilling.My GS had punches made from 30 cal & 50 cal tungsten carbide penetrators that he used in his business up til his passing.He could mark the top of the case hardened 03 & 03A3 receivers for drilling & tapping for scope mounts on his customized military conversion rifles. Last edited on 10 September 2007 03:57 PM by sako06
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sako06
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Posted: 11 September 2007 06:25 PM |
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| I just checked the Cheaper Than Dirt catalog which liste Greek 30-06 ammo as M2 Ball 1988 150gr production,non-corrosive,steel core with brass jacket 20 rounds for $7.88(Buyers Club $7.57. You can go to http://www.centuryarms.com for 30-06 Hot Shot boxer primed reloadable ammo minimum purchase 200 rounds of 30-06 SP 150gr or 180gr @ $11.49/20 rounds.At one time they carried PMP in 243,223,30-06,270,300wm,7mm mag,45acp,9mm etc but that supply has dried up as the company production has gone to military ammo for the world.
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Uncle Jaque
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Posted: 27 September 2007 05:48 AM |
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I got a case of HXP about a month ago from CMP. The last I knew they still had quite a bit of it in stock.
It is Boxer primed, non corrosive, and from what little I've fired so far in my M-1917 Remington it seems to be plenty accurate.
On the CMP forum some Competetors who fired at Camp Perry said that it outshot some of the US M-2 Ball in their Garands.
Others said that it chambered hard in their '03 Springfields.
I had no problem at all with it feeding and chambering in my old '17.
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sako06
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Posted: 27 September 2007 04:28 PM |
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| When our range was sold to a developer he listened to his atty who said rifle ranges were a risk even though there had never been any accidents and we carried several a million dollar liability insurance policy, we were told to shut it down.None of the other ranges are geared for competition so garand qualifications ceased and so did my interest.Our range was set up by rifle shooters with counter balanced steel target frames in the butts that we could raise & lower for competition.I had staff from our sheriffs crime lab,LE officers from the area & Western Outdoors News personnel attend our qual matches and they were all impressed with the range and its location in a valley butted up to a mountain really isolated but a great place to shoot.The developer laid out home sites w/o a permit,cut in roads,etc and got away with it but ended up selling the whole property to a nature conservancy which locked everyone from the land forever .
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Uncle Jaque
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Posted: 27 September 2007 08:51 PM |
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That's a sad, but all too common tale.
Not surprising coming from California, a socialist bastion... sort of like we are here in Maine.
Were you forced to sell your range to the "developer"? Was there some sort of agreement made to let you keep shooting there even when he owned it?
If so it's a contract he never intended to keep, I opine.
I also suspect that the whole deal was set up from the get -go to shut you down, as the Brits eliminated most of the ranges in the UK before they simply banned most firearms from the "Subjects". So if the anti-2nd ammemdment tyrants cant legislate our rights away, they can "rule" and "lawyer" them out of us - as I think they did to you.
Of course the city potentates had no intention of enforcing building or development codes or permit requirements on this jerk; he was doing their bidding in all probability, all along. The socialist elite make up the rules as they go along... but only us little people have to actually OBEY them, of course!
Turning your range into a "wildlife preserve", much like the British Gentry turned most of Scotland and Ireland into their exclusive "Game Reserves" running the native inhabitants out - or starving them to death - is what they had in mind all the time, and they won't stop until you can't even find a place to shoot a BB gun in your State.
Making end runs around our Constitution is a specialty of these creeps.
They've tried it here over and over, and we expect them to continue ad nauseum.
Some jackass put in a trailer park about a half mile beyond our impact berm, and never told the buyers about the range. When they found out, they tried to shut us down. Fortunately, the club I belonged to at the time had a couple of attorneys as members and we were able to convince a Court that since we were there first, it was the newcomer's responsibility to stay out of the way of stray rounds. Close one, though.
Then they whined about the noise.
Judge pointed out that although the complainants had just moved in from the flatlands a couple of months prior to dictating their terms to us rednecks, the range had been here for over 65 years, the Portland International Jetport had been landing and taking off about 3 miles away for over 40 and the Beech Ridge Speedway (Drag Racing) had been roaring around the track every summer weekend for about the same amount of time.
"Next Case, please!"
Never daunted, the liberal pissants b!%&#@d about the "environmental impact" of the lead bullets buried in the berm, and how it was going to poison all the CHILDREN if we didn't cease and desist immediately!
It cost us a lot of money, but the experts we hired determined that even without costly "abatement", it would take over a thousand years for significant levels of lead to leach into the watershed from our range.
Before long, they infiltrated our Membership and discovered that some of the shot from our Skeet range was falling into a small bog. Well!; That's now a "Vernal Wetland", don't you know?! Cant' have that!
They had us there; we had to shut down the Skeet program and move the whole thing at a cost of thousands.
We had to buy up as much land as we could all around the range to keep the developers from hedging us in with suburban sprawl and starting the whole "Here we are and you can't shoot now!" rigamarolle. When I moved, they were rotating the whole rifle range about 80 degrees so as to aim it away from encroaching "civilization", and the dues were $195 a year, which priced a lot of shooters right out of the sport. And I have no expectation of the commie pukes giving up on silencing them any time soon. They are obsessed with controlling other people, and nothing tears them up any worse than anyone else having any FREEDOM!
I now belong to a more rural Fish & Game club with a modest range, but the dues are $30 a year.
I noticed that there is a bog out beyond the Trap range...
And I told them to get ready.
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Posted: 27 September 2007 10:16 PM |
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| We had a year to year lease from very wealthy oil men we paid a $1/year,the original founders of the club were offered the entire property in the late 50's for approx $75,000 which would've cost each member a couple of thousand but they turned it down.Big mistake imo! I'm a member of another range on BLM land but some development group from Orange County bought the land north of the range so they're trying to force the range to shut down by using the courts and anyone else.We have a 16 year lease with the BLM & they want it to remain as their officers use it.Calif is a strange place controlled by the people who reside in the coastal areas who are supporters of very far left demo party ,the rest of the state is very conservative but population numbers are much lower inland. Last edited on 27 September 2007 10:34 PM by sako06
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