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 Posted: Thu Oct 22nd, 2009 11:12 PM
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Hi everybody.  I found your website this afternoon on google and joined.  I am not a handloader at this time but looking to be.  I like the Forster press the best so far.  

I'm looking at buying a Sauer 202 Classic XT as a one gun for everything (from pig to Elephant) and trying to decide on what caliber?  I  thought about getting it in H&H 375, Remington 416 or 458 Lott and handloading up or down for the animal to be hunted but this is a tough one for me because I don't know how much recoil I can handle? I would like to hunt brown bear for sure some day and I don't want to make the mistake that too many people have made of being under-gunned. 

The most powerful hand held rifle I have shot so far is a Thompson Center Encore 50 Caliber muzzleloader with a 300 grain bullet and 150 grains of American Pioneer Powder.  I use limbsaver recoil pads and I know I can take more recoil.  I just don't know how much recoil and I don't want the noise and hearing loss that comes with a muzzle brake in these calibers.  I hate the thought of laying out alot of money for a rifle and then finding out that it's more gun than I can shoot accuratlely but that's where the handloading part comes in where I could work-up a load that works for me. 

So that's kind of where I'm at.  Any CONSTRUCTIVE thoughts would be greatly appreciated from this wealth of information source. Thank you very much.

 



 Posted: Thu Oct 22nd, 2009 11:27 PM
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Sounds like you already own a platform to build off from....  The T/C Encore is a fine piece of engineering, and is easily swapped for any game via a simple barrel change.  And if T/C doesn't have what your looking for, there are a multitude of aftermarket manufacturer's.

 

As far as recoil that can be handled, well....it's all in what you feel like handling.  Some like to have the complete crap knocked from their bowels, and others want to see the bullet impact through the optic.  I fall into the second group, and I own a 50BMG!  And it doesn't take a 50BMG to take a big brown bear, heard somewhere that someone long since dead in the writing world took one with a .17Remington(I'll need to dig that fellas name up, can't remember right now).

One other thing, don't sell those .30-caliber offerings out.  Bullet selection is second to none, and they can be had just about anywhere.....

 

Before entering into the reloading/handloading addiction, be prepared to get a few reloading manuals and read them over careful.  They have a LOT of useful information for the beginner.  Forester makes an outstanding press that will give you decades of use, and you may never require an 'upgrade'......

 

 

Scott (there's my two cents worth) B



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 Posted: Thu Oct 22nd, 2009 11:40 PM
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hola amigo ! and welcome aboard !:Googleit: right on ! i have to concur with what our compadre scott said ,sound advice !
if one goes for hunting elephant alot of places the minimum caliber is indeed 375( and tc has a few choices there and more )other than a gun that changes barrels there is no "one gun" for everything ,not saying that you couldnt get a 458 win mag and hunt everything but ya wont have much bunny left for stew lolz and sometimes things like possible ricochets have to be taken into account ,all that aside ,having the desire to do so is alot of the battle in reloading , seems u have that covered,and like scott says get a few reloading manuals and read, they have a wealth of info and u can absorb it at ur own pace ( and then ask questions here etc )and just so u know ..we thrive on discussion so dont be shy about posting and asking etc !



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 Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 02:49 AM
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Welcome to the HB. We are glad to have you with us and we hope you enjoy the forum.

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 Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 08:30 AM
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Howdy Patriot7, I have a Forester Co-Ax and love it. LOL, you are like my son in your choice of calibers. He loves big bore in anything. Am "old school" and like my '06s. Have even lowered my standards slightly and picked up a few 308s along the way but keep it quiet. You will not be "undergunned" using most any centerfire rifle on bears. They are not super creatures that boolits bounce off. Saw an exhibit in Charlotte, NC of a 14 foot Brown and I guarentee you that an '06 would stop him. Lots of guides carry 45-70s in lever style for their toughness and "stopability" , wc



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