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Hi everyone,
Got to this forum by doing searches for 7x61 S&H.
Hope to make a couple of friends.
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22 hornet ; 222 rem ; 243 win ; 300 win; (9.5x57 MS still very unsuccessful --- any help out there 
Also now taking on the tricky 7x 61 S&H
Other hobies but hunting (Kudu; Springbuck; Impala;Wildebeest; Bushbuck ect.) are Kitesurfing; Trail running; Mountain Bike Races; Fishing and Camping with the family
Lekker Dag (Good day in my mother tongue)
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Welcome to the forum OCTANE.. I'm sure that someone will be able to help with your 9.5X57mm..
Good shooting .
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Welocme to the forum, enjoy, we have a lot of knowledge and a lot of fun.
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Octane, Welcome to HB. Looking forward to your posts. RD
Mjete' Dobry Den (from my Bohemy FIL) Have a nice day!
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Welcome Octane.
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Thanks chaps,
I feel at home already !!
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Looked at your photo. Great porno. What rifle, caliber and load?
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Thats a 300 Win Mag - Sako Delux.
That is a very old photo, (2004) and at the time still used the initial 100 rounds i bought to get going and get brass. (180 gr Sako Hammerhead)
I had to take a quartering shot from the left rear flank to get to the vitals and the right shoulder.
There was only two shootable bulls in a heard of about 20 animals, so there was no time for waiting ...... these Brindle Gnu don't stand still for to long and keep in the thick stuff. (not like their cousins the Whitetailed Gnu, keeps to the plains and flats)
See the foto of an Eland Cow shot the same year. In the Karoo, my hunting area in SA ,the 3006 and 308 with 270 is very popular. But i have a philosophy, "why have only one gun if you can have more". Although gun laws have become tuff here, i am hanging on to my babies. Robert Ruark gave good advice: "USE ENOUGH GUN"
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Glad to meet ya Octane!!! I am a 300 Win Mag fan as well,probably my favorite chambering of all the rifles I own.
I enjoy seeing your pictures.Your game animals are so many and diverse in Africa,it boggles my mind. Plus you all have enough critters that will bite back..
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Hi there Timberghozt,
Yes, in some ways we are spoiled. If only we had more time and resources to enjoy these hobbies.
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I hear ya, I wish I had more time to hunt but work calls me away from the woods far too often.
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I know the feeling; my only concern now is to keep up health like it is now, for my retirement is in 4 1/2 years, and I have to catch up a lot when it comes to hunting/fishing when I think of those countless times I made an extra-shift to help the company out.
How limiting are the gun-laws in your country?
We are only allowed to have 6 guns/rifles over here in Holland.
Ik wens u een zeer prettig verblijf in dit forum, en natuurlijk een mooie dag verder!
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Hi Paul,
Retirement is still many years away for me. Good luck for your plans and the well earned rest.
We have a history of no limits as long as we had a need/use for firearms.
Changed with much pain and regulation about 4 years ago.
Now allowed 4 firearms of which one may be for self defence.
I am a registered "Dedicated Hunter" (which entails active membership to shooting and hunting clubs and theoretical examinations with practical shooting tests over various distances and positions)
This status allows me more HUNTING rifles.
Status must be confirmed annually. Handguns and Shotguns "renew license" every 5 years and hunting rifles every 10 yrs.This all costs fees and admin charges. This fact made it impossible for many (especially older folk) to keep their guns.....
An average application for license takes anything from 1 to 2 years. So when we hear hunters can walk into gunshops in US and walk out with a gun.... Wow !!!
Baie dankie vir die gesprek, lekker dag vir jou ook - GROETNIS!
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I did not realise, it could be worse than with our gun laws somewere else!
For hunting one has to study a lot, followed by a Gouvernment controlled and approved examn, takes about 1 year to go through that, and afterwards one has to prove, to have the possibility to hunt somewere, otherwise no hunting license, which also is our fire-arms registration card will be issued.
I strongly agree that it must be quit a feeling to enter a gun-store choose a gun, pay for it and walk out of the door with it!
I posted several times, the people in the US do not really know how easy life is for them in that way, even just because of the overwhelming varyity of reloading components offered;
I am restricted to the use of Vhitavuori powders and CCI primersbecause those brands are the only ones my supplier has in stock on a regular basis, and for bullets I have to search abroad, mainly in Germany because hunting bullets are almost impossible to get- the only people who do reload over here are pistol and rifle target shooters- no hunters.
What rifle in .222Rem do you shoot?
I have a Steyr-Mannlicher for over 20 years now which was my all-purpose rifle until the wild boar migrated to the Netherlands from over the German border, and now my recently bought Sauer 202 Forest in .308 is my thrustful comrade.
I still like my .222, a deadly accurate little thing with a Leupold 3-9x50 on top.
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I have a Model Mini 90 Musgrave (South African built company which lasted a couple of generations, but sadly is no more)I use it mainly for vermin, but on calm, windless days i have used it on Springbuck and Rhebuck(55gr Speer). We have acces to various reloading components but for the POWDER, we mainly have acces to SA produced SOMCHEM. Not a bad product but always difficult to convert loads obtained from forums such as this.
My father has two Steyer- Mannlicher's - 243 Win and 3006. Both vertually unused but because of the regulation nearly worth nothing if he wanted to sell them.
South African's love European Guns and Scopes. SAkO; Mannlicher; Schultz and Larzen. Some US makes such as Winchester is very sought after. But Remington and Ruger more for affordability. I also have a 250 -3000 Savage L/A in Model 99. My 22Hornet is a Winchester Mod 43, and 243 Win a Mod 77 Varminter with Laminated stock, capped with a Khales 8x56. All the other rifles have Leopold Scopes. Just the Mannlicher Schoenouer (9.5x57)is scopeless,handels like a shotgun. Shot a Zebra with it last year, it was build around 1915!!
I always said, if the goverment only allows me one rifle, i would keep my Hornet. Accurate, cheap to load and the kids love to shoot it. It is fitted with a Leopold M8 (4x33)45gr Hornady with 10.2gr S265,CCI mag primer. I'll try and load a photo of the Hornet with a Bushbuck Ram shot in May this year.
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I do use a German computer-program called Quick-load, I checked it for you and I think, the whole range of Somchem powders from MS200 till S385 is listed and can be used to calculate.
I normally feed the program with the given loading data here, write down the pressure and velocity and then start substituting the given powder brands for VV-types available over here until I come next to the pressure and velocity.
Also for calculating loads for a short barrel- my Sauer has a 52 cm bull-barrel - this program is ideal because I can check how faster powder works - we hunt mainly in moon-light and in the late evening and as little of muzzle- flash as possible is a real advantage then to avoid temporarely blindness in case a quick second shot has to be fired.
I actually use it for all my load developing and the output is very accurate, if one takes the time to determine the internal volume of the cases exactly.
Just Google Quick-Load and you will know more.
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Thanks Paul,
Will look into it this weekend.
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Thanks Octane. Love the Sako rifles. I have one in .270 Win. I like the 300 Win Mag.
Thanks to you and Paul T for the info. The ability to go and buy a rifle and get it is great and has taken a lot of effort and fight by a lot of person throughout the years. There are a lot of people that want to take it away from us. Each state has differing rules for firearms. My state of New Mexico is pretty good.
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Hi there Dersert Marine,
I supose everone has something to be greatful about..... can't have the best of all worlds.
In SA we battle with keeping and licensing our guns, but I can drive 60 minutes and hunt Kudu for R1500- 00 (less than 200$) and Springbuck for R300-00 (less than 40$). I can shoot as many as I can aford, as often as i like (in season) or even out of season on approved properties!!
Thats Africa for you.
Cheers,
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