The Handloaders Bench Home
Home Search search Menu menu Not logged in - Login | Register

Attention: Due to an increase in spammers all new members will be activated manually by an administrator, and start out as probationary members. You will only be able to start a welcome post in the welcome new members forum. You can reply to all other posts. Once you have reached 5 posts you will be a full member and can start topics. We apologize for the inconvenience but spammers are becoming a real problem. We are also experiencing problems with new members receiving activation emails. We are manually activating new members. Please be patient with us. We will activate your membership within 24 hours of registration. We are sorry for any inconvenience this might cause. HB Admin

Proper load for 9mm Luger?
 Moderated by: woodsman777, Timberghozt
 New Topic   Reply   Printer Friendly 
 Rating:  Rating
AuthorPost
 Posted: Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 08:58 PM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
1st Post
penguin82
Full Member


Joined: Sun Jan 3rd, 2010
Location: Evans City, Pennsylvania USA
Posts: 87
Photo: [Download]
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: 380 Auto, 9mm, 38 special, 357 magnum, 40 S & ... ...
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

I recently started to reload and with nothing to do I decide to take apart a factory loaded Blazer Brass 9mm 115 grain bullet cartridge to see how many grains of powder was in it. To my surprise, it measured 2.7 grains (not sure what the powder is). I looked it up in the Lyman 49th edition and found that the starting load was 4.4. I checked some other handbooks and found that nothing was quite this low for a starting charge. So I measured out 4.4 grains of Alliant Unique and it filled the empty case to the top. ??? Now is this correct and will the bullet pack the powder into the case when the bullet is seated?



____________________
Reload, Shoot, Reload!


 Posted: Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 09:37 PM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
2nd Post
fryboy
Administrator


Joined: Sun Feb 24th, 2008
Location: Middle Of America , USA
Posts: 9668
Photo: [Download]
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: ones that work
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

several things to consider here..
#1 the factories use a different grade of powder than we do
#2 they load for economics
#3 they have these awesum ballistic labs where they test every lot of powder and adjust their load accordingly
#4 every powder and charge is different

#5 just about every reloading manual uses different bullets/primers/brass/etc ( ditto for factories)

i like to try to look up the maufacturer's loading data -for both the bullet and the powder when i can with that thought the free loading data for alliant( the maker of bullseye) list most of their powders with most bullets listed all the way from bullseye to 2400 ,with the bullet u describe they list 5.5 max grains ,also stated is to reduce max loads by 10% and work ur way up safely so 4.4 isnt out of line ,btw ? some powders are denser or lighter than others requiring more/less room than others while on a rifle i dont mind a little bit of compaction i usually try to find a load for pistols that fill over half the case yet not to the full full mark ,if the powder fills it too much i try to find a different and better suited powder,the 9 is a higher intensity round and can use a variety of powders ( one of my fav loads consist of blue dot another power pistol)the blue dot fills the case more but is barely compressed when the bullet is seated ,some compression is ok alot isnt ,if u ever have to pull one apart and it has a bit of compression to it the powder will have to be dug out ( well with flake powder anyways )ball powders dont compress much ,the top load listed for blue dot is listed as a compressed load ( mine is about 1/2 grain below max and that's where my gun shot the best groups ( ur's may differ)) wnem loading one important part is to not seat the bullet deeper than specified , since ur's was a factory u should seat it the same as the rest of the box , i wouldnt be surprised if it shoots a bit softer than the factory round btw



____________________
(happy shootin'-the best way to get empty brass!)

:reloadandshoot:


 Posted: Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 09:38 PM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
3rd Post
OldStuffer
Moderator


Joined: Sat Oct 31st, 2009
Location: Newton, Kansas USA
Posts: 5530
Photo: 
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: 12-gauge A-5, .308 Winchester BAR, .45acp (in a 1911 of ...
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

Oh lord stop where you are.

The key you are missing is 2.7 grains of WHICH powder. Not all powders are the least bit the same. Some are similar, som are vastly different.


9mm luger brass will hold 8.0 grains of Unique, brim full and leveled off. IMO that's a recipe for blown-up stuff.

You need to check your scale.

I do not find in any of my load data a 2.7 gr powder charge in a 9mm, but, that does not matter. I show many 3.5 to 4.5 gr. starting loads, of different powders.

Prove that scale accurate, and start over from scratch.



____________________
I don't always venture out into the sub-freezing darkness, but when I do, it is hunting season, and I carry a Browning. Stay hungry my friends.


 Posted: Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 10:05 PM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
4th Post
penguin82
Full Member


Joined: Sun Jan 3rd, 2010
Location: Evans City, Pennsylvania USA
Posts: 87
Photo: [Download]
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: 380 Auto, 9mm, 38 special, 357 magnum, 40 S & ... ...
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

Thank you both for replying. 1st-I will re-check the scale. 2nd-I did not believe that there was so much difference in the powders. I belive you guys have just proved me wrong. Thanks again for the information! greatly appreciated.



____________________
Reload, Shoot, Reload!


 Posted: Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 11:25 PM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
5th Post
fryboy
Administrator


Joined: Sun Feb 24th, 2008
Location: Middle Of America , USA
Posts: 9668
Photo: [Download]
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: ones that work
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

here is perhaps one of the better list i could dig up on powder plz note the sheer amount of powders and ranges of burn

http://www.reloadbench.com/burn.html

i believe they also have links to the powder manufacturer's pages,erm just checked,nope they have them hi-lited but google will pull them up :wink: ,some are indeed similar but most are not ,they will all have a range they work in ,even in days of yore the black powder had grades etc cannon powder was much coarser than rifle etc all the way down to blasting and flash powder ,a tool for every job ,unique is a fairly versatile powder lovingly called i believe"flammable dirt" for lite target loads in alot of calibers it works great in a few it'll even do top loads ,hodgdon's universal is very similar for uses but not in charge weights ,they vary ,it's nice to have a couple scale check weights ,all it takes is a known weight ,i actually use a few bullets that have been checked on different scales one of them is a 115 9 mm bullet lolz (it's dead on too,all arent )the wee little weights are best bought IMO

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/64310-1.html
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=0004498990
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=612694
etc etc..



____________________
(happy shootin'-the best way to get empty brass!)

:reloadandshoot:


 Posted: Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 11:50 PM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
6th Post
OldStuffer
Moderator


Joined: Sat Oct 31st, 2009
Location: Newton, Kansas USA
Posts: 5530
Photo: 
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: 12-gauge A-5, .308 Winchester BAR, .45acp (in a 1911 of ...
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

The worst part is the darned wee little weights are friggin' PRICEY! LOL

There is a vast differnce in powders, all designed to burn at particular rates. Powders designed for very small cases with very light bullets burn much faster than powders designed for very heavy bullets in very large cases.
There is virtually nothing in comon, other than the basic materials the powder is made from, between a powder suitable for a .22 rimfire or .25 auto to a powder suitable for loading .50 Browning Machine Gun. Both are Nitrated Celulose based materials, there, all similarity ends.

Many powders do have overlapping uses, many shotgun powders do excelent double-duty as handgun powders, or very light practice loads with rifles. Some very fast rifle powders do double duty in certain very heavy handgun rounds, the Cassul, certain Magnums.
Shotgun ammunition functions under a designed pressure of between 7,000 and 11,000 psi.
MOST handgun ammunition functions between 15,000 and 30,000PSI, Some are a little higher (.357 mag and 9mmP run 35,000psi max), SOME are far higher, running rifle pressures.
Most rifles run pressures of from 35,000 to 60,000psi.
By no means do all powders mix uses very well, and a very select few are more hazardous than others to use in loading ammunition. When you see a load recipe that states NOT TO REDUCE A CHARGE any more than a very small ammount, pay attention to this warning.
If I recall correctly, H110, Win296, it seems to my memory there is another one (not meaning Blue Dot), are very slow burning powders, and are very touchy at maintaining enough pressure on themselves as they burn, to keep their burn speed up. The standard rule of "reduce a listed maximum charge (if you do not have a listed minimum charge) by 10% and build from there", is NOT a good idea with these powders.

The main load I run in 9mm is a 124gr bullet, 6gr of Alliant Power Pistol. I would have to double-check that charge as it is from a falible memory just now (I am not in the gun room near my reccords or load data).

My fastest 9mm load is 115gr JHP atop almost 7 grains of a .223-class rifle powder, Vhitavouri N110 that I happened to have arround for making .22 sabot rounds in my .308. My 9mm likes it, and I like the 1300+fps velocity.

Best of luck to ya. All of us here enjoy helping.

Loading ammo is easy, but, it IS a somewhat hazardous undertaking. With reasonable care, there is truly minimal hazzard to ones life and limb. Fail to pay attention, or just plain be careless, and it can bite you very hard, very sudenly.



____________________
I don't always venture out into the sub-freezing darkness, but when I do, it is hunting season, and I carry a Browning. Stay hungry my friends.


 Posted: Mon Jan 4th, 2010 12:03 AM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
7th Post
OldStuffer
Moderator


Joined: Sat Oct 31st, 2009
Location: Newton, Kansas USA
Posts: 5530
Photo: 
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: 12-gauge A-5, .308 Winchester BAR, .45acp (in a 1911 of ...
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

That "flamabe dirt" Unique is a great "all-purpose" powder, yet, as with all "Jacks-Of-All-Trades", it is "Master Of None".
It does fine duty for me in a 1 1/4oz 12-gauge field load.
I COULD, if I saw fit, use it in both my 9mm and .45 Auto cartriges, and I could dust off the .38 Specials and .357's as well.
I HAVE, long ago, put something like 17 grains of it in a .308 case with a 100-gr 1/2-jacket (I think Sierra makes it) as a "plinker load". Nothing incredible for velocity, no chance of functioning the BAR, but it shot accurately, as long as you stayed within it's vastly reduced limits (200 yards+ was a definite no-no).

Just some of the things you can do with "flamable dirt". LOL :)



____________________
I don't always venture out into the sub-freezing darkness, but when I do, it is hunting season, and I carry a Browning. Stay hungry my friends.


 Posted: Mon Jan 4th, 2010 12:24 AM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
8th Post
frankmako
Full Member
 

Joined: Fri Nov 6th, 2009
Location:  
Posts: 71
Photo: 
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: 9 different pistol and 6 different rifle.
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

hard to say what type of powder the factory ammo is using. get some good reloading books and read the factory powder sites for your starting loads. the ammo guys will not tell you what type of powder they use and you can't buy it anyway.



 Posted: Mon Jan 4th, 2010 01:27 AM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
9th Post
OldStuffer
Moderator


Joined: Sat Oct 31st, 2009
Location: Newton, Kansas USA
Posts: 5530
Photo: 
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: 12-gauge A-5, .308 Winchester BAR, .45acp (in a 1911 of ...
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

frankmako wrote: hard to say what type of powder the factory ammo is using. get some good reloading books and read the factory powder sites for your starting loads. the ammo guys will not tell you what type of powder they use and you can't buy it anyway.

Quite true.

While ammo manufacturers Do use "the same powders we buy" (SOME of them), they do NOT use the lots that are for sale to the public, and, if my recolection from decades of reading things are correct, they actually have a much "looser" tolerance for the powder than we handloader's lots do, since they have access to all the pressure-test machinery that we do not have. There MAY also be some "special formulations" that are not available to us, as you do occasionally see some particularly high velocity ammo that we as handloaders have great trouble trying to duplicate, particularly these days.

I have great doubt this was the case 20 years ago. Back then, powder selection was a lot less, and you could be pretty certain that, if your rifle liked, for example, factory 150gr Win. Silvertip .308, then you could keep your brass, buy more, buy 150gr Silvertips, WLR's and WW748BR and duplicate the factory load, and tune it a bit better to your exact rifle.

An '06 from Winchester was probably WW760BR, or IMR/H4895. From Fed. that .308 may well have been full of BallC#2, or IMR4064.  Times are different now. Some of the comon handloader powders were original factory load powders, but, you have very few ways to know which ones, where, and no way to know how much. Most of the powder makers will tell you a fair ammount about the powders, some have long histories that you can find out fairly easilly.

I read recently that, for example, Alliant Powder (formerly known as Hercules) is STILL in possession of a large quantity (now under 100 pounds) of the first lot of Red Dot ever manufactured for sale to the handloading public. It is stored under Climate Controll (A/C), and in a glass container under Acetone. Every current production lot of Red Dot is tested against a small volume of this powder to insure it is as consistent as absolutely possible with the original, from many decades ago. If it passes muster, it is released and packaged for sale. This keeps old data still valid, which I do not throw away, but, new data is every bit as good. Better, debatable, but all of it is good to have.

 

You WILL actually find info on shotgun ammo sometimes, I use Winchester here again as an example, because I have seen this data recently. They said, from the factory website, that "if you like trap-load "X", all you need to duplicate it at home is the hull (used or buy new), Wad "Y", and "Powder Z" ("X-grains of WST"for instance). Factory primer is a given, you already know shot weight and size.

Since Winchester sells all the parts, they make money either way.



____________________
I don't always venture out into the sub-freezing darkness, but when I do, it is hunting season, and I carry a Browning. Stay hungry my friends.


 Posted: Mon Jan 4th, 2010 02:06 AM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
10th Post
Charley
Board Founder


Joined: Fri Sep 9th, 2005
Location: San Antonio, Texas USA
Posts: 10624
Photo: 
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: all of them
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

"Canister Grade" is for the retail trade. It MUST be consistent from lot to lot, above almost every other consideration.

"Non Canister Grade" is for the manufacturing end of things. Consistency doesn't matter, when they get to the end of a lot, they simply adjust the charge to give the wanted pressure/velocity levels. They have access or own quite expensive test equipment to do that on, and it is no big deal for a major manufacturer.



____________________
TANSTAAFL


 Posted: Mon Jan 4th, 2010 01:48 PM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
11th Post
daboone
Forum Benefactor


Joined: Tue Oct 6th, 2009
Location: Phoenix, Arizona USA
Posts: 2686
Photo: 
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: What day is it?
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

OldStuffer wrote: The worst part is the darned wee little weights are friggin' PRICEY! LOL
Best of luck to ya. All of us here enjoy helping.

Try here: American Science & Surplus. Their 10 piece set is $19.00.

This set is in grams but Grams to grains and a  sharpie.....

Last edited on Mon Jan 4th, 2010 01:49 PM by daboone



____________________
We are told not to judge Muslims based on the actions of a few.

I suggest we give the millions of responsible Americans gun owners that same courtesy.


 Posted: Mon Jan 4th, 2010 03:15 PM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
12th Post
OldStuffer
Moderator


Joined: Sat Oct 31st, 2009
Location: Newton, Kansas USA
Posts: 5530
Photo: 
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: 12-gauge A-5, .308 Winchester BAR, .45acp (in a 1911 of ...
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

That's about 3x better than RCBS wants the last time I looked! :) Excelent!

Standard set is $34, 8 weights, delux set is $60, 11 weights, and a tweezer.

Yea, grams/grains conversion is just a bit of math. I'll likely be ordering a set of those myself this coming weekend (if the truck tranny doesn't hit me too hard). :sad:

Last edited on Mon Jan 4th, 2010 03:41 PM by OldStuffer



____________________
I don't always venture out into the sub-freezing darkness, but when I do, it is hunting season, and I carry a Browning. Stay hungry my friends.


 Posted: Sun Jan 10th, 2010 10:35 AM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
13th Post
penguin82
Full Member


Joined: Sun Jan 3rd, 2010
Location: Evans City, Pennsylvania USA
Posts: 87
Photo: [Download]
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: 380 Auto, 9mm, 38 special, 357 magnum, 40 S & ... ...
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

Hi Guys

I just received my Hornady bullets today and have finished my first attempt at reloading. I did 25-9mm cartidges and you guys were right. After checking the Lyman electronic scale and recalibrating it, I found that 4 grains of Unique did fit into the case. In fact, it only filled the case just past half way. Now all that is left is to go out and shoot these to see how they will work in my S&W SV9E 9mm.

However, with almost a foot of snow on the ground.....I think I will loose the empty casings...

Thanks for all of your help. Next up- 38 special and 357 magnum cartridges.

Penguin82



____________________
Reload, Shoot, Reload!


 Posted: Sun Jan 10th, 2010 11:38 AM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
14th Post
fryboy
Administrator


Joined: Sun Feb 24th, 2008
Location: Middle Of America , USA
Posts: 9668
Photo: [Download]
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: ones that work
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

and when u'd see the cases next they'd be green ...that snow has a tendency to slow me down as well ( at least on the auto loaders ) sometimes i wonder if having complete control over my cases is why i fell in love with the thompson contenders and encores ....or at least part of it ,i actually have some 9's i'm working on i got a new mold awhile back and while i have shot lead in the caliber before not this weight (120 )i've been debating herco or unique workups,let us know how they do when ya get he chance ! i have a feeling that u got bit by the "handloadin bug " and the only cure is ...yup more loadin lolz



____________________
(happy shootin'-the best way to get empty brass!)

:reloadandshoot:


 Posted: Sun Jan 10th, 2010 12:22 PM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
15th Post
OldStuffer
Moderator


Joined: Sat Oct 31st, 2009
Location: Newton, Kansas USA
Posts: 5530
Photo: 
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: 12-gauge A-5, .308 Winchester BAR, .45acp (in a 1911 of ...
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

penguin82 wrote: Hi Guys

I just received my Hornady bullets today and have finished my first attempt at reloading. I did 25-9mm cartidges and you guys were right. After checking the Lyman electronic scale and recalibrating it, I found that 4 grains of Unique did fit into the case. In fact, it only filled the case just past half way. Now all that is left is to go out and shoot these to see how they will work in my S&W SV9E 9mm.

However, with almost a foot of snow on the ground.....I think I will loose the empty casings...

Thanks for all of your help. Next up- 38 special and 357 magnum cartridges.

Penguin82


Stretch out a bedsheet ot tarp next to ya to catch the brass. It'll help anyhow.

 

In "testing" the new recoil pad for the Mosin Nagant the other day, took 15 rounds in strippers outside, and just in a Sweatshirt and earmuffs blasted them all into the wood-pile. At least I could controll the ejection of those to "catch" and pocket them.

Oh The Mule is so much nicer with rubber'd hooves. :thumbs:



____________________
I don't always venture out into the sub-freezing darkness, but when I do, it is hunting season, and I carry a Browning. Stay hungry my friends.


 Posted: Mon Jan 11th, 2010 12:12 AM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
16th Post
miestro_jerry
Guest
 

Joined: 
Location:  
Posts: 
Photo: 
Are you a handloader?: 
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: 
My favorite chambering is:: 
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

The only thing I get from "factory" loads is the brass (if it is reloadable), the rest stays at the range. Which powder the factory uses is always a mystery and if the factory changes powders, which they do, they keep the ballistics the same.

My load for 9mm Luger or Parabelum, is 4.2 grains of WW 231, with a 124 grain Round Nose cast bullet, I like CCI or Remington primers for this load. It works in all of my 9mms. This keeps tight groups in my Hi Power and in my Star. In my oldest son's service pistol, he shoots expert every time with my reloads.

Jerry



 Posted: Mon Jan 11th, 2010 10:05 PM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
17th Post
penguin82
Full Member


Joined: Sun Jan 3rd, 2010
Location: Evans City, Pennsylvania USA
Posts: 87
Photo: [Download]
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: 380 Auto, 9mm, 38 special, 357 magnum, 40 S & ... ...
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

Guys

Thanks for your comments. Yes, I have been bitten by the reloading bug! I can't wait to shoot these. There is a little bit of doubt in my mind since this is the first attempt at reloading my own ammo. I keep researching everything I can to issure that I did everything right. I have double checked and triple checked everything that I can think of. Now, only the shooting of these cartridges will tell the tale!

 

Thanks again for all of your input. Doesn't hurt to get as much information as possible.

 

Penguin82



____________________
Reload, Shoot, Reload!


 Posted: Tue Jan 12th, 2010 02:42 AM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
18th Post
jjb2
Master Handloader
 

Joined: Thu Jul 5th, 2007
Location:  
Posts: 1800
Photo: 
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: pistol
My favorite chambering is:: 
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

OldStuffer wrote: Oh lord stop where you are.

The key you are missing is 2.7 grains of WHICH powder. Not all powders are the least bit the same. Some are similar, som are vastly different.


9mm luger brass will hold 8.0 grains of Unique, brim full and leveled off. IMO that's a recipe for blown-up stuff.

You need to check your scale.

I do not find in any of my load data a 2.7 gr powder charge in a 9mm, but, that does not matter. I show many 3.5 to 4.5 gr. starting loads, of different powders.

Prove that scale accurate, and start over from scratch.


pay attention to O S !!    ALL POWDERS HAVE THEIR OWN BURN RATE  and are designed the way are for a reason......    i can get the same fps velocity from either 15 grs. of 2400 or 6.2 grs. of bullseye in a .357 magnum 150 grain swc reload...   it takes a bit to understand why there are so many different powder to use BUT they are all different....  if you are not careful you WILL  blow your gun up and perhaps injure yourself.... look into the alliant powder reloader quide for recipes and CAREFULLY follow the suggestions.... if you are in doubt about ANYTHING get back to us here and we will try to help you.... 

 

  LIFE IS SHORT.....



 Posted: Tue Jan 12th, 2010 09:48 PM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
19th Post
penguin82
Full Member


Joined: Sun Jan 3rd, 2010
Location: Evans City, Pennsylvania USA
Posts: 87
Photo: [Download]
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: I load everything!
My favorite chambering is:: 380 Auto, 9mm, 38 special, 357 magnum, 40 S & ... ...
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

Guys
with the doubt in my brain...I just HAD to go shoot the reloads. First a Winchester factory 115 jacketed Hollow Point..nice kick. Then one of my reloads...124 GR. Hornady HP with 4.8 GR Unique powder....Similar to the factory load...some kick...Then my second reload..147 GR. Hornady HP with 4.0 GR powder...not the kick but more like a punch. I liked this round. I'm not sure about accuracy but I believe I hit the stump that I was aiming at. I just wanted to know that the cartridges would fire without any issues. All went well...I still have all of my fingers and my hand!!! I think that attention to detail made all of the difference. since this was my first attempt at reloading..I just had to be sure. all chambered and did fine.

Penguin82



____________________
Reload, Shoot, Reload!


 Posted: Wed Jan 13th, 2010 01:27 AM
   PM  Quote  Reply 
20th Post
jjb2
Master Handloader
 

Joined: Thu Jul 5th, 2007
Location:  
Posts: 1800
Photo: 
Are you a handloader?: Yes
Favorite type of cartridge to load?: pistol
My favorite chambering is:: 
Status: 
Offline

  back to top

 

 cool...     if you reload your ammo properly it should out perform factory ammo.......     each reload is handcrafted whereas factory ammo is cranked out by the thousands per day...........   my .38 spl reloads and .357 magnum reloads when shot over a chrony are half the sd of factory loads and that's just normal most of the time.... remember also that the most powerful you can make safely isn't the most accurate lots of times......     enjoy reloading ..... it's a great hobby and and great way to get cheaper,more accurate shooting......

 

 LIFE IS SHORT......        

 

   



 Current time is 03:47 PM
Top




UltraBB 1.17 Copyright © 2007-2008 Data 1 Systems
Page processed in 0.3451 seconds (38% database + 62% PHP). 34 queries executed.