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7-08 loads and stories needed!
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 Posted: Sun Jul 10th, 2011 02:17 AM
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I am retiring my 6.5x257 Roberts AI built by P.O. himself in 1968 on an FN Supreme action. In the scheme of things it has been carried a lot and shot very little. It has taken Black bear, Elk, Mule and Whitetail deer, Antelope, Mountain Lion, Bobcat, Wolf, Coyote, Russian Boar and a couple of Marmotas Monax over the years. I have used the 125 Gr. Sierra Game King almost exclusively. It shoots to point of aim on the first and last shot...the first shot by the way has always been the last shot. It kills quicky and is a dream to shoot...However, all things must pass and sadly so in this case...it has served yeomans duty and I would like to preserve it!

I recently purchased a Remington 700 in 7mm08, and it has a factory injection molded stock and I put a Nikon 4-12x40 scope on it. I did some things to it that I do to virtually all of my weapons including a proper breakin on the barrel. The only bullets that I had on hand were 140 Gr. Sierra GK HPBT bullets, two full boxes worth. I could not find brass locally so I ran 100 new Lapua 308 brass through the full length sizer and had at it. I have shot a lot of matches with a 308 and I almost always used IMR 4064 or IMR 4895, and it shot extremely well. I worked up carefully with that powder/bullet combo while breaking in the barrel and I stopped at 43.9 grains, It was 90 degrees and 85% humidity here in the Ohio Valley while I was doing the initial workup so I figure that a load that is safe under these conditions should be good to go most any time. I did notice from the start that velocity was somewhat higher than the book showed although this happens occasionally due to unknown circumstances. It ended up averaging 3045 fps over the course of the day and 40 rounds fired with accuracy at about 5/8 in for three shot groups and the first bullet out of a cold clean barrel wandering little if any from the group.

I am open to new ideas on bullet selection, powder, brass or any combination of the above to achieve the best load possible for this rifle, hunting will now be confined to WT deer, possibly 1 more Elk and the occasional varmint.

Thanks in advance for any insight that you may have and wish to share either here or by PM.

Mark



 Posted: Wed Jul 13th, 2011 01:22 PM
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I've had a 7-08 of one type or another since the early 80's, and it's definately a ver versatile round.  At about the same time, I kissed my last .30-06 goodbye, when I found that my M7 was almost as fast with a 139gr Hornady as the '06 was with a 165gr Hornady.

My current 7-08, and probably my last, is a LSS Mtn Rifle, with a 2X-7X Leupold.  7lbs 9oz with a sling and full magazine.  Occassionally I shed a tear for the blued and walnut 700 Mtn Rifle I DIDN'T buy, but I'll live.

Of the four different 7-08's I've owned or loaded for, all did the best for velocity and accuracy with H414 or W760, and I've had very good results with 139/154gr Hornady, and 140/150gr Sierra's, on deer and antelope.  My Mtn rifle will hit 2900fps with the 139/140gr bullets, and will turn in consecutive 3 shot groups @ 100yds, under an inch, as long as I'm paying attention.  I've also had very good luck with Trail Boss and 120gr bullets, and of all things, 175gr bullets I had laying around from my 7mm Mag days.

For the most part, the 7-08 will turn in excellent groups with almost any powder in the medium burn rate range.  I've used the 4895's, W748, BL-C2, 4350's, and 4064.  In my experience, you would get by just fine with any of them, I just prefer ball powders when they work well.  I'm lazy, and hate weighing charges.

Good luck with you 7-08 though, I rate it as outstanding im my own personal experience, and a lifetime favorite.



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I deer hunted for 4 decades with a 7x57, 20" barrel. Normally about 4 deer per year. I tried all of the cup and core bullets between 139 and 160 grains that i could get a hold of as I'm an experimenter at heart. Sierra 150 in front of a maximum charge of 4350 (2700 fps) wound up being my favorite whitetail load. Liked the 139 Hornady for open country hunting. (2800 fps). The 130 Speer for antelope (2900 fps) and the 115 Speer for groundhogs and coyotes (3050 fps). I used the Nosler 140 gr. partition on wild hogs but didn't care for it. It left too small an exit wound, no blood trail, thought I would try the 160 Speer next time but haven't got around to it yet.



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I have never owned one but intend to in the near future. John Barsness had a great write up on the 7-08 a few months back. A rancher friend in Montana won a Ruger 77 in 7-08 a few yars back and whacked a nice 5x5 bull elk with it. It died promptly. I have never heard a cross word spoken or written about it, though I suspect some of the magnum officianados out there will swear it is underpowered for some of the uses it's seen. I do know people that will argue that you should hunt Mule Deer with nothing less than a 300 winmag, and will look at my 30-06 or 6.5 Swede with disdain in elk camp.



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My son has been shooting 120 Ballistic Tips for years in his. 49 grains of H414 gets us a shade over 3000 fps. That was a very accurate load that I started him with when he was 11. It could be pushed a little harder, but I never saw a reason to do so. He has multiple mule deer, antelope, and 2 elk so far. Both elk were one-shot kills @ 325 yards or so.
    I've also used that bullet extensively in my 280's.

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I've owned 2 different 7mm-08's over the years. My 700 BDL has killed 8 different deer including whitetail, muley's and a nice 4x4 blacktail my son shot when he was 14. Everything killed with a 140 gr. Partition and IMR4064. Sadly, I was forced to sell this to help pay for a big "D" and don't mean Dalles! I have since replaced it with a Winchester 70 Feather weight with a 20" barrel. Haven't used on live game yet but I'm shooting 140 Sierra Game Kings and IMR4007ssc and I'm sure it will do just fine. Great big game cartridge!



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sorry i didn't find this thread till now...I searched for 7mm-08 loads...instead of 7-08.

anyhow...check out my new 7mm08 Load thread for our recently developed recipe.

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My son has been shooting 120 Ballistic Tips for years in his. 49 grains of H414 gets us a shade over 3000 fps. That was a very accurate load that I started him with when he was 11. It could be pushed a little harder, but I never saw a reason to do so. He has multiple mule deer, antelope, and 2 elk so far. Both elk were one-shot kills @ 325 yards or so.
I've also used that bullet extensively in my 280's.
Last edited on Mon Aug 1st, 2011 09:24 PM by 280shooter




Wondering your thoughts on a 120 vs 140 gr bullet for elk. I am loading for a sako a7 7mm08 with a 22in barrel.

Thanks,

PW

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I have a Remington model 7 youth and a full size model 7. Both of my daughters have shot their 1st deer with the youth model and continue to hunt with the full size. I load 39 gr of Reloader-15 behind a 140gr Nosler BT. This is a pretty light load with very little recoil. I have not worked up any other loads for either of them. this load shoots better than I do out of both rifles, I figure if it aint broke don't fix it.



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nippip wrote:
My son has been shooting 120 Ballistic Tips for years in his. 49 grains of H414 gets us a shade over 3000 fps. That was a very accurate load that I started him with when he was 11. It could be pushed a little harder, but I never saw a reason to do so. He has multiple mule deer, antelope, and 2 elk so far. Both elk were one-shot kills @ 325 yards or so.
I've also used that bullet extensively in my 280's.
Last edited on Mon Aug 1st, 2011 09:24 PM by 280shooter




Wondering your thoughts on a 120 vs 140 gr bullet for elk. I am loading for a sako a7 7mm08 with a 22in barrel.

Thanks,

PW


Don't load for this cartridge(yet), but if it were me, I would actually use a 140 gr or even a 154 gr for elk. Just to err on the side of caution and because I want to make sure the job gets done. I would probably also look at some Woodleigh PPRN bullets for the job too. Not saying other c-n-c bullets won't get the job done, however, when you run a string of good one shot hits in the right place and there is no movement afterwards, why settle for anything less. Good luck and stay safe.



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You want a story, well I have owned several 7x08 guns from XP-100 to 700 BDLs the last gun I bought at a show for the action, I buy 7x08 and 243s to tear down, blue print and build 260 match guns on, I own 5 such tear downs now.

Any way, the last heavy barrel, 7x08 M-700 BDL I bought, was "shot out" according to the owner, so I got it right. Took it home and de-coppered it. Large chunks of copper came out. So I threw some rounds together to shoot it. I have a rule, if it shoots sub .5 I will not tear it down, I take the target, date it, rubber-band it to the stock and sell it as a shooter. My normal test load is 47-48 gr of H-414 under a 140gr Sierra Pro Hunter FBSP set .003 off the lands. Well this gun shot .25 so I knew a guy that was looking all over for a 7x08 that would shoot, to hunt with, so I traded it to him for my 5 days use of his tractor with its front end loader, delivered and picked up, it was just sitting on his farm, he was thrilled and I was over joyed to get some stumps dug up and moved from my back yard to the road after storm clean up. My trade out on that deal was about $900. But it was a very nice gun and it shot like a house on fire.
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hockeynick39 wrote:
nippip wrote:
My son has been shooting 120 Ballistic Tips for years in his. 49 grains of H414 gets us a shade over 3000 fps. That was a very accurate load that I started him with when he was 11. It could be pushed a little harder, but I never saw a reason to do so. He has multiple mule deer, antelope, and 2 elk so far. Both elk were one-shot kills @ 325 yards or so.
I've also used that bullet extensively in my 280's.
Last edited on Mon Aug 1st, 2011 09:24 PM by 280shooter




Wondering your thoughts on a 120 vs 140 gr bullet for elk. I am loading for a sako a7 7mm08 with a 22in barrel.

Thanks,

PW


Don't load for this cartridge(yet), but if it were me, I would actually use a 140 gr or even a 154 gr for elk. Just to err on the side of caution and because I want to make sure the job gets done. I would probably also look at some Woodleigh PPRN bullets for the job too. Not saying other c-n-c bullets won't get the job done, however, when you run a string of good one shot hits in the right place and there is no movement afterwards, why settle for anything less. Good luck and stay safe.



Hockynick, thanks for your thoughts on 120 vs 140gr. I am thinking about the 140 Nosler Accubond for elk. These seem somewhat like the PPRN and I can get them around my parts and have time to work up some loads for my late Oct hunt.
Thanks again,
PW



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My Rem 700 7-08 shoots Nosler 120 BT and 140 AB extremely well in front of RL-15. I could not get either bullet to settle down with 4064. The throat is riduculously long so seating to the lands is not viable for a hunter. Experiment with seating depth and you will be richly rewarded in accuracy.



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With RL-15 practically non-existent in the marketplace, I've developed a very good 140gr AB load with RL-19. The RL-15 likes 42.2gr, while the RL-19 works best at 48.2gr. The case is about 90% full and depending on case capacity and base-ogive length, it can require initial seating, then rolling and shaking the cartridge a bit and re-seating the bullet to make the OAL work.



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