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Ruger 30 carbine loads
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 Posted: Wed Sep 9th, 2009 02:23 AM
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New to the forum so if i'm in the wrong area don't shoot. I came across some 115 gr. cast lead bullets at http://www.keadbullets.com    I have a Ruger 30 carbine that i've had for 38 years .Does anyone have a less than hot load that is a little tamer just for plinking or maybe direct in the right direction. I currentlu have some 2400 powder if that can be used. Thanks Mike



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cubby, Welcome to HB. You posted it right where it belongs. I don't have any experience with .30 carbine but I'll bet somebody will come along here shortly that does. That's the way it usually works on here. Hope you enjoy the forum. RD



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Flyingcubby,

First I had a Ruger 30 carbine some years ago and think letting it go is the worse mistake I have made!

I found that factory and "accurate" loads fired with accuracy and the recoil was not bad. The problem was ejecting the cases from the cylinder. With factory and reload ammo the cases expended and stuck in the cylinder and I had to use a wood dow and mallet and drive them out. I noted the scratches on the case and looked at the cylinder and found it needed honed and polished.

The cases came out better but I loaded down.

To answer the question I had to load at the minimum of 231 with a 110g round ball as listed in Lymans manual.

Hope that helps!

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I can tell you one thing; DON'T SHOOT THAT THING WITHOUT EAR PROTECTION!

Recoil ain't much but the muzzle blast was the worst I ever experienced.  Suspect that's why that thing was never too poplular.   It's MUCH more pleasant to shoot my hot loaded .357 and .44 mags!

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Hi flyingcubby,

You're in luck.  I just happen to have some good loads and information for you on downloaded 30 carbine.  I played with a friends Marlin 62 for a time that is a lever action before I got my .32 mag marlin.  The 30 carbine is not just limited to slow pistol powders at max velocity.  You can make outstanding loads using common pistol powders and 115gr RNL bullets!  Here's some data fired in the 62 which had about an 18" barrel.  The slower powders will produce similar velocities from your pistol.  Numbers are average velocity, standard deviation and extreme spread. This data was all developed by me so use at your own risk.   You can always use 32 S&W long or H&R magnum data as a starting points in the .30 carbine handgun load development.  Higher pressure loads should use small rifle primers. rc















115gr Lazer Cast LRN, .308
Clays
              1.4
 
CCIsr
mix
           596
   23
    55

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
Clays
              1.9
 
CCIsr
mix
           769
   31
 

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
Clays
              2.5
 
CCIsr
mix
           900
   10
    21

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
Clays
              2.5
 
CCIsr
mix
           914
   18
    49

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
Clays
              3.0
 
CCIsr
mix
        1,053
   19
    53

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
Clays
              3.0
 
CCIsr
mix
        1,045
      8
    19

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
Clays
              4.0
 
CCIsr
mix
        1,184
   19
 

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
231
              1.0
 
wspm
mix
           413
   19
    47

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
231
              1.0
 
wspm
mix
           422
   18
    37

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
231
              1.5
 
wspm
mix
           620
   28
 

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
231
              1.5
 
wspm
mix
           634
   10
    25

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
231
              2.0
 
wspm
mix
           771
   13
    31

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
231
              3.1
 
CCIsr
mix
        1,036
      8
    22

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
231
              4.5
 
CCIsr
mix
        1,285
      4
    44

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
231
              4.5
 
CCIsr
mix
        1,256
   12
 

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
231
              4.5
 
wspm
mix
        1,258
      4
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
Universal
              5.0
 
CCIsr
mix
        1,321
   19
 

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
Universal
              5.3
 
CCIsr
mix
        1,402
      8
 

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
Universal
              5.3
 
CCIsr
mix
 1409-1446 in Marlin 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
WAP
              3.4
 
wspm
mix
           993
   25
    69

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
WAP
              3.4
 
CCIsr
mix
           984
   19
    53

110 gr Plated  West Coast
WAP
              6.0
 
CCIsr
mix
        1,334
      9
    24

110 gr Plated  West Coast
WAP
              6.0
 
CCIsr
mix
        1,353
   16
    43

110 gr Plated  West Coast
WAP
              6.5
 
CCIsr
mix
 
 
 

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
800X
              6.5
 
CCIsr
mix
        1,506
   25
 

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
800X
              7.0
 
CCIsr
mix
        1,635
   27
 

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
800X
              7.0
 
CCIsr
mix
        1,661
   20
    53

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
Blue Dot
              8.5
 
CCIsr
mix
        1,651
   31
    86

115gr Lazer Cast LRN
Blue Dot
              8.5
 
CCIsr
mix
        1,671
   22
    46

110 gr Plated  West Coast
Blue Dot
              8.5
 
CCIsr 
mix
        1,723
   22
 

110 gr Plated  West Coast
Blue Dot
              8.5
 
CCIsr 
mix
        1,720
   48
 

110 gr Plated  West Coast
Blue Dot
              8.7
 
CCIsr 
mix
 
 
 

110 gr Plated  West Coast
Blue Dot
              8.5
 
CCIsr 
mix
        1,734
   22
    51

110 gr Plated  West Coast
Blue Dot
              8.5
 
CCIsr 
mix
        1,700
   17
    43

110gr Sierra SP
296
            15.0
 
j
mix
        1,934
   14
    36

 



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Rc, Thanks so much for your information. Mike



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Here are some loads I found else where.  These are jacketed bullets, however I believe the 115 LRNFP will work just fine.


30 Carbine, 110 gr.;  Carbine


Bullet   Powder Weight   Powder   Velocity     OAL   Primer   Source


RN        13.0 gr                  H108       1,930 fps                           Hodgdon
Suggested starting load: 11.7 gr                                   Pressure: 36,900 PSI

RN         16.0 gr                 H116        1,962 fps                          Hodgdon
Suggested starting load: 14.4 gr

HSP        15.0 gr               Win 296     1,980 fps                         Winchester
Suggested starting load: 13.5 gr                                    Pressure: 36,000 CUP

30 Carbine, 110 gr.;  Handgun

Bullet   Powder Weight   Powder   Velocity     OAL   Primer       Source


TMJ       13.0 gr                  H110       1,850 fps   1.68"  Win SPM    guest
This is a very accurate load.




These loads are from the Alliant page.

.327 Federal Magnum; 115 gr Speer GDHP


OAL      Barrel   Primer      Powder            Powder Wt.   Velocity


1.465"      3"        CCI 500     Power Pistol      6.9 grs.        1,214 fps
1.465"      3"        CCI 500     2400                   11 grs.        1,301 fps



32 H&R Magnum; 100 gr Speer JHP 


OAL      Barrel   Primer      Powder            Powder Wt.   Velocity


1.345"      5.5"    CCI 500    Bullseye                3.6 grs.       1,000 fps
1.345"      5.5"    CCI 500    Unique                  4.4 grs.        1,074 fps
1.345"      5.5"    CCI 500    2400                     7.7 grs.        1,091 fps 

30 M1 Carbine; rifles,  Speer 110 gr RNSP


OAL      Barrel   Primer      Powder            Powder Wt.   Velocity


1.675    18"        CCI 400     2400                    12 grs.        1,745



I hope these help.


 

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I have an old winchester 92(32-20) with a shot out barrel.  Since the chamber is worn, I  lose a lot of cases due to splits etc! The small 32 is a fun round!  In my 30 carbine, I used 10.0 grains of 2400 with the Hornady 90 grain XTP hollow point. H-4227 with 12.0 also worked.

I wanted to continue up-grading this load in my Winchester 30-30 model 94 Buffalo Bill Commemerative.,Using the same bullet with 15.0 grains of Alliant 2400  under a small packing of cotton to hold the powder in place produced excellant accuracy at 125 yards on a propane bottle!  Since my chrony was broke. I could not calculate the speed and can only estimate at around 1,800 fps.  H-4227  with 16 grains also produce d the same results. Recoil was more like a 38+P coming from this seven pound rifle.

 

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:troll:Back in my wild-and-woll-ier days I owned a Ruger in .30 carbine, topped with a 4X bushnell pistol scope. Weeeeeeellll, one day while putting together varmint loads for my 30-06, I had an epiphany-----It took some experimentin' (redneck for "Hey fellers, watch 'is here!!) but I finally figgered out how much 2400 I could get in there and still deep-seat them 110g Sierra hollow points just enough to clear the cylinder (can you spell "compressed load"?), and walked out to my range which was then only 85 yards. Brother, that thang sure had a whistle to it----I still don't hear well to this day---but that abomination would REPEATEDLY print cloverleafs at that distance, and I have witnesses! Just shows to go ya that not everything in this life makes good sense. Seems that either the .30 carbine is the world's biggest no-brainer to load for, or maybe luck struck a turd---whatcha think?:stupid:

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Been looking at your load, for the 30 carabine, but it is not aligned properly on my page.  I was looking at loads with w231, can you resend them please.



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flyingcubby wrote:
New to the forum so if i'm in the wrong area don't shoot. I came across some 115 gr. cast lead bullets at http://www.keadbullets.com    I have a Ruger 30 carbine that i've had for 38 years .Does anyone have a less than hot load that is a little tamer just for plinking or maybe direct in the right direction. I currentlu have some 2400 powder if that can be used. Thanks Mike

Well, I wouldn't use #2400 for plinking loads in the .30 carbine. Am I correct in assuming you'r talking about the .30 Carbine Blackhawk handgun? You really didn't specify but the load I use in mine is 5.0 gr. of Unique with several 100 to 120 gr. cast bullets. The most accurate one is the 120 gr. RN from a SAECO 4 cavity mold I came across. Darn thing doesn't have a number but it casts a 120 gr. RN bullet with a bevel base. Another bullet that shoots well is a 115 gr. Lyman SWC that takes a gas check. I also have a 110 gr. bullet that is a plain based hollowpoint but it's very difficult to get good casts from it as the pin for the HP cools off way too fast and I just can't cast fast enough to heep it hot enough. The few good ones I do get shoot very nicely though.
Extraction is a bit stiff but I don't need a dowel and a hammer to extract the cases. I am thinking about reducing the load just hair to 4.5 gr. to see if they extract smoothly. The chambers in the cylinder are might rough with machine marks which probably doen't help.
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