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Do anyone do a layering type of casting, so you can get a soft nosed cast bullet?
I think this is an interesting area of bullet casting and does show the skill of the cast to be consistent.
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miestro_jerry wrote: Do anyone do a layering type of casting, so you can get a soft nosed cast bullet?
I think this is an interesting area of bullet casting and does show the skill of the cast to be consistent.
Jerry
Jerry, didn't Lyman some years ago offer a mould to cast a nose out of soft lead, and a different mould to cast a hard body section? The resulting two pieces were then fitted and swaged together. Can't rightly remember when....
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I know somebody did that, but there is also the method I out lined that was used by many back in the 50s I think.
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3006 user wrote: miestro_jerry wrote: Do anyone do a layering type of casting, so you can get a soft nosed cast bullet?
I think this is an interesting area of bullet casting and does show the skill of the cast to be consistent.
Jerry
Jerry, didn't Lyman some years ago offer a mould to cast a nose out of soft lead, and a different mould to cast a hard body section? The resulting two pieces were then fitted and swaged together. Can't rightly remember when.... the two halves were glued together.
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I'm not a caster (yet  ) but didn't I read over on Cast Boolits that sometimes you can use a dead soft 00 or 000 buckshot dropped in the nose of your mold for a soft point? By the same token I'm wondering if you could use a hard cast 00 or 000 buck in a dead soft bullet to get expansion not unlike a ballistic tip in some big old slow mover like a .45 colt SAA? Or maybe even a #2 birdshot in the nose of a .223 cast for varmints with the same effect? Again, I'm not a caster just thinkng out loud. RD
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It's a pain in the butt to do. Best to devise a small ladle/dipper of some kind that will pour just enough soft lead to fill the nose then hurry to the fill with the harder alloy. You can also cast a hard bullet then anneal the nose just as you would brass.
Just much easier to cast from 20-1 to start with , make sure they get sized right, and use a good lube.
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Ranch13,what velocity can be reached sucessfully using 20:1? i have 500 40/65 bullets taking up shelf space.that is 200,000 grains that may get converted.a lyman 311284 is begging to be used in the 06.
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I've ran them up to 1700 in the 405, and just a tad under 1800 in the 30-30, both plain based bullets. I suspose if a person wanted to put a copper diaper on the velocity could be jumped a bit more.
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the mould as you know is a gc type so i will put them on.the 06 may go 2300 with a 210 gr but if 1800 was where the accuracy is i can live with that.i have read an article about casting softnose bullets by Ross Sefried.maybe someone can post the details here.i am sure the temp of the mould at the time the hard base is poured will be critical to keep at the correct level.a heavy cast that acts like a premium jacketed bullet does sound good.
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