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12 gauge shotgun hulls?
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 Posted: Mon Apr 2nd, 2012 03:41 PM
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I am seriously thinking about getting into reloading 12 gauge shotgun Again.  I used to reload shotgun shells back when we shot ducks with lead shot.I need some information on the 12 gauge shotgun hulls. Which ones are the best ones for reloading. And explain what the difference is between six points and eight point hulls.I presume it is the top crimp. But I am not sure. I went to the range today and picked up a large trash sack full of shotgun hulls.The shooters that Shoot on the trap And skeet range are required to pick up all their hulls and  put them in trash cans that are there for hulls only.  So they are all clean and dry.The majority of the hulls that I picked up today were Winchester super x.  Are these any good for reloading.
 The reloader  that I am planning on getting Is a Steel master 3 1/2 inch. with a short kit for 2 3/4 and 3 inch. To begin with The majority of my shooting will be skeet or trap and two to three weekends a year duckhunting. Any information or tips would be appreciated.



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Well, lessee................

crimp count (6 or 8 point) is pretty much a personal deciusion, WITH A CAVEAT.
Some hulls are thinned at the mouth, tapered slightly, it's is called "skivving".
Skived hulls TEND to last better with 8-pt crimps. 6's are so deep that they tend to split after fewer foldins.

As far as I know, the skivvved hulls are AA's, the current Winchester HS (replaced the AA), the Fed. Gold Medal, I cannot speak to things I have never used such as Fiocci or Multi-Metal.

Also, the 1-piece hulls (like the AA, the Gold Medal, the Rem. Unibody) are slightly tapered on the inside. This gives tham slightly less capacity, tends to raise pressures slightly, works VERY WELL for target loads, or low-weight hunting ammo (1 1/8 ounce and/or under). Also they last longer shooting target/reloading.

The 3-piece hulls like the Fed. High Power (tube, separtate fiber basewad, separate head crimped on) have more volume inside, good for heavy payload hunting loads. The heads CAN come off from repeated reloading (loosening up) when fired in SOME shotguns.
A friend of mine had a bunch (Fed. H.P.'s), he had on about his 6th loading. My Benelli/Franchi inertial semi-auto with single extractor pulled several heads off. my Browning A5's dual extractors never pulled a single one loose. His O/U wouldn't pull one apart anyhow.

A manual like the Lyman one has an excelent section on hull identification (and instruction/information you need), buy it NOW, it will get you started off well.


As far as equipment goes, only 1 name needs to even be thought of, MEC. The 9,000-pound gorilla of shotshell loading equipment. Other people make more expensive stuff, none works any better.
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I second Oldstuffer on the MEC. I have a 9000G that I wish had an odometer so I could give an accurate amount of shells loaded on it. The only part I have ever replaced is the little brass dimpled washer on the charge bar. They wear out periodically. I load AA and STS hulls for trap & skeet. 18.2 grains of Clays with 1 1/8 oz loads for trap and 15.9 grains with 1 oz loads for skeet. Very comfortable 12 gauge loads and clean burning powder. The skeet load is a little light for some autoloaders, it won't cycle consistently in my Benelli M1 but my Beretta 391 does.



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Oldstuffer has the right press mfr, no question.   Excellent performance and excellent customer service.

For your target loads, Federals (Hi Power, Gold Medal, and Top Gun) will work nicely, as will Estates which are made on the same equipment (same factory I think.)  I'm getting 5 loads out of them before even needing to check for splits or other damages.  I can't speak to your Super X, none get used up this way on the target fields and I've not yet found anyone that uses them for any reason.

I've loaded some 6 point hulls without bothering to change the seating die on the MEC, but it's been only a very few rounds that came off the range.  No difference in performance, but I prefer 8 point, just because that's what I mostly manage to find.

Federals and Estates are not skived.  I can't speak to how well a skived hull will last relatively, never have used them.

AAs are supposed to last longer when reloading, but I've not experimented with them.

By all means, get a Lyman's book and find a recipe to your liking for the hulls you have before buying the first component.

Also, I like Ed's pick of Clays (notice that there are 3 flavors of Clays, get the right one for your recipe) for powder.  Burns pretty clean in my Citori.  My MEC drops 18.3 grains to go with the 1-1/8 oz of 7-1/2, and is not punishing at all.  Next time I order shot, I think I'll get wads to take 1 oz.  1/8 ounce lets costs add up when you're shooting trap.  I've a friend that doesn't miss with 1 oz loads.



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The only place I can claim reference to in the "point-wear" I spoke of was long ago, when Activ hulls were new (and brown), I bought some new, decided on 6-point crimp because the load I was using was maximum-heavy.

Hulls split as few as 3 loadings.

Noted the skivving, read of it, switched other new hulls to 8's, and got easilly 3 or 4 times the life before splitting.



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Lyman shotgun reloading manual fifth edition has been ordered.  Could you please explain a little more about the one piece,Two piece, and three-piece hulls. I'm sure I will understand more when I get the manual.   also I cannot make up my mind whether to purchase a progressive press or the steel master 3 1/2 inch.  It is my understanding in the progressive presses  you cannot load 3 1/2 inch12 gauge.So I'm not sure which way to go.  I really like the idea of a progressive press.  But I would like to be able to load 3 1/2 inch also.



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ezmoney wrote: Lyman shotgun reloading manual fifth edition has been ordered.  Could you please explain a little more about the one piece,Two piece, and three-piece hulls. I'm sure I will understand more when I get the manual.   also I cannot make up my mind whether to purchase a progressive press or the steel master 3 1/2 inch.  It is my understanding in the progressive presses  you cannot load 3 1/2 inch12 gauge.So I'm not sure which way to go.  I really like the idea of a progressive press.  But I would like to be able to load 3 1/2 inch also.-
-One piece - molded plastic, including the rim
-Two piece - molded plastic, brass or other metallic base
-More pieces - built up from plastic sleeve, separate base wad(s) insert, crimped into brass or other metallic base

You would like a MEC 600 jr to start the learning the art (says me and maybe me only.)  You can, if you are diligent (I'm not) get to 60 or more loads per hour.  (I settle for 40 or 50 per, with lots of lazy breaks.)  I do NOT know if it can be made to do 3-1/2 inch shells.



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ghrit thanks for the information.  I believe I got a handle on it now.  I would thank the two-piece would be all right to reload.  The one with the Cardboard or wood Looking bottom(Looking into the hull) I believe they are three-piece . and that  piece in the bottom Could probably Absorb moisture and should not be used.the two-piece ones look like they have a white or clear plastic bottom.  Sorry to sound so green:rolleyes: about all this.  I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm off the mark.



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The rolled paper or fiber basewads CAN absorb moisture, BUT, you have to expose them first. Get them rained into after firing, leave them in the back of the duck-truck after a hunt and it rains, etc. Once loaded, impervious (unless you throw them overboard, and then they won't soak anything real quick), unloaded in cardboard boxes in my basement awaiting loading, years and years, just inspect for spiderwebs across the primer/basewad before loading so as to not get any squibs.


The new Winchester HS has a separate basewad, but it's plastic, comes way up the side, basically duplicates the internal shape of the old Compression Formed AA.
An older Winchester has a separate plastic basewad as well, the Polyformed, very rare today. It did NOT extend up the side of the tube.


I use a great many hulls, and, almost never, do I use the same hull for more than 1 loading. This way, if I pick up a hull that is loaded but not in a box, make of hull, style of hull, brass height (means nothing to the load, but I load a Fed. High Power High Brass different data than a Low Brass same hull, just for identification puyrposes), I can tell what the load is and stow it away properly.



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MEC 600 Jr's are a great press, once you get really good with one (years in the future) you CAN load 100 an hour (no breaks, AT ALL) (no auto primer feed either).

I've managed that many a day on my/dad's 12-gauge MEC 310 (where I started).

Get 600's all day long on Flea-Bay for a dime or 2 on the dollar, and if it is missing something, MEC parts are not expensive (nor complex).

Dad's 310 is semi-retired by my Grabber 76 (old version), but still does "1-off" things like Buckshot where the progressive Grtabber just "gets in the way".

A 700 Versamec feeds the 10-gauge goose-hammer, again, I don't need a lot of volume to feed that hunting cannon, no trap loads here, and much custom-ness (hand-weighed charges (STEEL, the ONLY thing I ever had trouble dispensing from my MEC's) wad columns, felt spacers, buffer, large pellets, over shot wads)

Recently bought a 20-ga Sizemaster to feed Grandpa's Sportsman I inherited. I prefer the collet sizing, again, volume not needed like it is in 12-gauge.



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2 12-bore 600's on Flea-Bay right now, the high one is $36.

Search "MEC 600 Loader"

A wider search finds quite a few 650's, BUT, no resizing, so you need a separate resizer (like the Super Sizer).

THOSE are tough to find, except new (bought one for the 10-bore to do the 700's sizing for it).

12-ga Super Sizer on there tho right now for $18 and change.



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In my loading room are four MEC's. Three sizemasters< 12, 20, 28> and one 600. I personally prefer the sizemaster, because of the auto primer feeder. I load for myself, my grandchildren and occasionally my son. I load somewhere around 10k year, and have never felt the need for a progressive. IMO, spend the extra money on powder, shot and wads.



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ezmoney wrote:  I believe they are three-piece . --------------------and should not be used.
As OS says, if they are picked up before wetting and kept dry, they work and store well.  The fiber base wad is not particularly absorbent, but they swell and don't shrink back to specs.  It isn't worth the effort to check.  In fact, that's all I've used since I got the press, I hit a recipe I like on the first try.

(And yes, I know about wetting ---.  That just plain automatically gets them rejected since that first and only attempt.)



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ghrit wrote: ezmoney wrote: Lyman shotgun reloading manual fifth edition has been ordered.  Could you please explain a little more about the one piece,Two piece, and three-piece hulls. I'm sure I will understand more when I get the manual.   also I cannot make up my mind whether to purchase a progressive press or the steel master 3 1/2 inch.  It is my understanding in the progressive presses  you cannot load 3 1/2 inch12 gauge.So I'm not sure which way to go.  I really like the idea of a progressive press.  But I would like to be able to load 3 1/2 inch also.-
-One piece - molded plastic, including the rim
-Two piece - molded plastic, brass or other metallic base
-More pieces - built up from plastic sleeve, separate base wad(s) insert, crimped into brass or other metallic base

You would like a MEC 600 jr to start the learning the art (says me and maybe me only.)  You can, if you are diligent (I'm not) get to 60 or more loads per hour.  (I settle for 40 or 50 per, with lots of lazy breaks.)  I do NOT know if it can be made to do 3-1/2 inch shells.
  
Never heard of the "one piece hull" refered to in this manner; I've always heard of "one piece hulls" being Winchester AA, Remington STS, Peters Blue magic, ect.....the hull itself is a one piece....the metal head has nothing to do with it.
  Two piece hulls where those made by the Rheifenhieser (sp?) process, which consisted of a wound piece of paper/cardboard for the base, which was stuck in the bottom of a paper or plasitc tube, then capped with a metal head  (which is what you are refering to as a "three piece".....never heard that term before).
  At any rate, the Activ hulls are no longer being made.....which is too bad, as they are great hulls for waterfowl handloads (no metal head to rust or corrode...and they have a HUGE internal capacity for big flake, fluffy powders such as Alliants's STEEL).   Also, the gold medal hull that was mentioned earlier is a target hull, but it too has a large internal capacity which makes it great for heavy field and steel shot waterfowl loads, so I usually save those for such when I find 'em.
  For target shooting, I find it hard to beat the Remington unibody hulls....all plastic construction, and you can usually find them in the dumpster at any trap range, so the price is right.  The also load up well, and last a fairly long time for cheap, throw away hulls.
  I agree whole heartedly with the MEC for a starting reloader, and you can get spacers to use to load up 2 3/4" hulls on a machine that is set up for 3 1/2" hulls, but you might want to reconsider reloading 3 1/2 inch hulls (at least initially).  Unless you shoot a LOT of 3 1/2" shells, you most likely won't find it economical to reload them......but that is a decision you will have to make for yourself.
  As for the 2 piece (or three piece, depending on how you look at it), most manufacturers are making the base wads out of plastic nowadays instead of paper....you may have to look hard to make sure that what you have is a two piece as opposed to a one piece hull.

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ezmoney wrote:  The reloader  that I am planning on getting Is a Steel master 3 1/2 inch. with a short kit for 2 3/4 and 3 inch. To begin with The majority of my shooting will be skeet or trap and two to three weekends a year duckhunting. Any information or tips would be appreciated.


That Steelmaster is probably the best choice you could make for your use. Not omly will it do a pretty fair job loading steel shot, it will also handle large-size lead shot with ease. Other MECs bog down when used for either of those two, unless a conversion kit is installed.

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ezmoney wrote:  The reloader  that I am planning on getting Is a Steel master 3 1/2 inch. with a short kit for 2 3/4 and 3 inch. To begin with The majority of my shooting will be skeet or trap and two to three weekends a year duckhunting. Any information or tips would be appreciated.

I don't know if you need the short kit to load shorter shells on the 3 1/2. The regular sizemaster has an adjustable column to allow for 2 3/4 or 3". No short kit needed. You might call MEC and ask. RD



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Rockydog there is a slight difference between the 12 gauge Size Master and 12 gauge Steel Master.  The size master comes in 2 3/4 in And 3 inch.  The Steel master is the only press MEC makes available in 3 1/2 in  and requires a short kit to load 2 3/4 and 3 inch. That is how it was explained to me when I called MEC.



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I'd like to thank everybody for all the helpful information.



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Steel should be loaded in NEW hulls each time...
Thats what I've been told !
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d45/70 wrote: Steel should be loaded in NEW hulls each time...
Thats what I've been told !
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