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Progressive Presses for 12g
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 Posted: Sun Nov 1st, 2009 03:02 PM
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That looks interesting and they have developed a pneumatic system to go with it.

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If you buy the Spolar direct from the factory Spolar will set it up to your exact load -- primer, powder, wads, and shot -- and load 100+ loads on it before shipping it to you.

If bought locally guess one would have to adjust it to their personal loads.

Would hope a local dealer would help with the adjustments.

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I may buy it from the factory then, if I buy this one.

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Spolar is made Bloomington, CA about  30 miles away.The friend who had the Dillon shotshell loader sold it , didn't like the too tight tolerances.He purchased a Spolar and had it setup for different guages .He has  Pacific DL 366 also. I just saw some used spolars listed on line google search for spolar brought up some for sale.



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I have seen the Pacific loader in a couple of catalogs. But here I can ask questions and get honest opinions, at some of the bigger box stores, they either don't know or just try to sell you something they have no idea about.

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Use Dillon 550, 650, and 1050 machines for metallic cartridge reloading -- so I like the Dillon company.

But for shotshell reloading, can't imagine anything better than a Spolar.

Use Spolar for 12, 16, and 28 gauge.

Probably will add 20 gauge soon.

Have three MEC machines too.  They're good.  But they're not a Spolar.

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Check out all of the reloading machines then make your choice,my friend said if one bought all of the spolar add ons it could come to several thousand dollars.  



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Currently have a little over $3,500 invested in Spolar equipment.

Well over ten times that amount in Dillon.


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My Pacific DL366 was about $179 including tax in the 1970's now they're over $500 sold by Hornaday.



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I still have a Mec 9000 & 5 mec 600 JR
Just bought a Spolar about 3 months ago. Wish I had bought it 10 years ago.
I was leary of a Hydraulic had one on a Mec it was a mess I would get the Hydraulic next time. I will at a later date add the Hydraulic.
Got the 12 GA & the 28 GA less than 5 min to change gauges. It is pricy but well worth it.



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I set my own Spolar up when I change from Skeet to Trap loads or hunting loads
Nothing to it



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just buy a ponsess warren.
the 950 has been around for decades and they do nothing but make shotshells.
I have three different ones and changeovers for other gauges I hve had to replace one part on the three machines in over 30 years of use.
they used to make a L/S-1,000 which was replaced by the super-2,000 or something like that now.
it loads lead, steel, bismuth, whatever just like trap loads, and is adjustable for 3 and 3-1/2" lengths.
the last time I used it was to load some buck shot rounds which will be more than a lifetime supply for me it took me a couple of evenings to load up over 60 pounds of shot in them, including the casting and polishing of the shot.



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MEC = Chevy/Ford Truck

Ponsness Warren = Cadillac

Spolar = Rolls Royce

I have them all, machines , not the vehicles :wink:.

As far as the MEC, I still use the 600 JR, but got rid of the 9000G.

I use the Spolar the most. Sweet, just Sweet.

 

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Spolar is the berries (list price at more than $1600, it should be).
I have three MEC 600s, two 650s and a 9000. The 9000 does most of the work these days. I dont touch it except to load the hoppers and crank the lever.
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For the price of ONE Spolar, I could have a Grabber in every gauge, and never have any "bennefit" from "fast gauge changes".

Just can't see where the 2-large is worth it.............



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I've used the PW and a MEC Grabber (basically a 9000G with manual advance. The PW is great unless you have a hiccup like a forgotten wad etc. Then It's a real pain in the butt. Can't get the offending case out so it gets crimped etc. At least with the Grabber you can pull the case out of the process and not have all of the grief. I can't tell which shells were loaded by which press. RD



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I have never used a Spolar or a Dillon. All the others seem to have one common finicky area-primer feed. Not a question of IF it will screw up, just WHEN. Generally the most in-opportune time, of course. Not endorsing or condemning any make or model, just pointing out an area to watch like a hawk. I use (and prefer) the RCBS Grand to any of the others, but it has it's quirks also--would be using MEC if I hadn't got a real good $$ deal on the RCBS. I don't believe you can beat RCBS or MEC for customer service, Hornaday close, P-W stunk last time I tried.



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OldStuffer wrote:
For the price of ONE Spolar, I could have a Grabber in every gauge, and never have any "bennefit" from "fast gauge changes".

Just can't see where the 2-large is worth it.............


Chuckle, the 2 large depends on your game.

In 2 cases of loaded shells my MEC 9000G missed powder in 2 shells. In my game where 1/100 - 1/10th of of a second can cost you the whole match, no powder IS a huge deal. A reload takes just under 2 seconds. You don't need a math degree to figure that one out.

When you spend a few hundred every weekend and a few thousand a couple times a year at matches you must depend upon your ammo.
I lost all confidence in that machine. Just like having a home defense gun that jams- get rid of it.

Now in someone else's game what have they got to loose if there is no powder? Hunting, wait for another bird, or if shooting a double, you have another shot. Skeet/Trap, no fire, pull again.

Totally different situations. As they say, time is money.

Now, was it worth the diff in cash? Mentally yes! But physically it is 10 times the machine as well.

As I mentioned earlier, about the vehicles, yeah, you can easily buy 5 + Chevy trucks for the cost of a Rolls too.

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Boy, it just defies my imagination the trouble some folks have with making ammo, you aren't alone.... I've been around the internet too long, seen plenty.

The only time my presses (4 MEC's, 3 single stages and a progressive) have ever "missed a powder charge", it was because I screwed up, not the machine.

I guess I've just had an "easy time of it" ever since dad taught me to run his MEC310 back around 1980. Leave powder out of a shotshell, they usually fail to crimp worth a hoot, all dished in and all.
Then there's the folks who want ultra-light shell payloads, and ultra slow, and pressures down around 5,00psi (and no recoil at all), and they create their own poofter problems, especially when the weather turns cold.

Ah well, enjoy the equipment you figure you need, that is your call, 100%. :)



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OldStuffer wrote:


The only time my presses (4 MEC's, 3 single stages and a progressive) have ever "missed a powder charge", it was because I screwed up, not the machine.
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Well, maybe I screwed up, maybe I didn't.

The problem with this 9000G, not sure bout the rest, is that this had a horrible primer feed.(N/S). Then, forgive me for lack of terminology, a long thin actuating rod out front was adjusted by a wimpy Allen screw system which would would not tighten down. Thus, this would allow the powder bar not to be engaged.

So, along with watching the collet sizer for jamming, I had to watch the primers, the actuator rod, the powder bar, while I was inserting wads, AND inserting cases. My eyes were darting everywhere!!!

And this is supposed to be a top notch press?

It was worth 2 g's to get rid of the headaches and have peace of mind!

I'm not slamming MEC. All co's have their lemons. Like I said, I still use my 650 JR which has NEVER let me down.

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