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Progressive Presses for 12g
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 Posted: Mon Oct 19th, 2009 08:04 PM
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Who makes the best or even just reliable progressive press for 12g. ? I have looked at MEC and Dillon, but open to suggestions on others.

I am not going to run out and buy one right now, but maybe a year down the road.

So any one have favorites.

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Jerry

 



 Posted: Mon Oct 19th, 2009 08:48 PM
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Jerry, I've used a mec grabber for about 25 years and have been very pleased with it. Personally I like the manual indexing as it gives me time to keep an eye on things and correct anything that might not be right. I've probably loaded 60,000 to 70,000 rounds on it. I use a universal adjustable charge bar which allows me to adjust loads precisely. There are better machines on the market, up to $2,000.00, but I think the grabber gives a guy a lot of bang for the buck at an affordable price. I don't get in a big hurry when loading , it takes me about 25 minutes to load 100 rounds on the grabber.



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 Posted: Tue Oct 20th, 2009 12:43 AM
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Does anyone have a Dillon SL 900 press?

Here is the Dillon page on this loader:

http://www.dillonprecision.com/#/content/p/9/pid/25239/catid/1/SL_900

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i'm really fond of the hornady 366 , the thing has been around forever ( now with gas assist)not sure about the newer ones but mines all iron,my brother got the apex but i like the 366 better, not quite as easy to play around with loads on as a lee or a single stage but man that dude works
https://www.hornady.com/shop/?ps_session=f4bba346e4b46c696f54cd2c89bde444&page=shop/browse&category_id=905186f9f77fca6d19b489eb60dd8509

some folks i know have spoken highly of the poseness warren and while i have seen a few being used ( and for sale )

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I bought my first Pacific/Hornady 366 in 12 ga back in the early 70's when I started shooting trap on a weekly basis and needed to reduce my reloading time.   In the mid 70's I also started to shoot skeet, so I bought 3 more 366's (20 ga, 28 ga, and .410).  I upgraded my older models with auto indexing and shot/powder shutoffs.

When I was competing, I was loading 10,000 shells per year.  I still load about 5,000 shells per year.  It takes me about 4 minutes to load a box of 12 ga shells (25) and a couple of minutes more for the smaller gauges.

Several of my shooting buddies had Mec, Ponseness and Spolar presses and talked highly of them, but my 366's have worked well for me.



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I have a Ponsness-Warren 800C that a friend bought twenty-some years ago. About ten years past, he gave it to me because he wasn't using it any more. However, his dumb brother was, without his knowledge.. The ham-handed jackass really fouled it up.. Sent it back to P-W. $400 later, it was returned to me in brand new condition.

Great machine - not all the bells and whistles of the modern presses, but does a perfect job. Once adjusted, you leave it alone. Just load away..

I use the same load I started with: AA hulls, usually Win primers, AA type wad, 17.5gr Solo 1000, 1 1/8oz #8 for a 2 3/4 dram equiv load.

As with any progressive press, you'd best not let your attention wander. I couldn't believe how many pellets there are in 1 1/8 oz of #8 as they pour out on the floor.:wink:



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Jerry, What swampshooter said, :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs: RD



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I have a Pacific DL 366 12g (new I think it was approx $200 in the 1970's I purchased it at Andrews Sporting Goods the precursor of Turners Outdoorsman in Calif)  the company was sold to Hornaday who still makes them.I've loaded thousands of 12g hulls with it using Blue Dot,Red Dot ,Win 540,Green Dot, Unique,Win 273AA,HS7 & 700X with new and reclaimed shot. The 366 has a separate station for resizing cases. The Mec Super Sizer works great had one for my mec 650 that I shouldn't have sold but bought another on ebay.



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The grabber re-sizes the rim and base of the hull which aids in feeding and function in auto loaders and pumps. Most of the others do not do this, causing jams in repeating shotguns. Although, I'm not familiar with every loader on the market, so some others might do the same.  PS. I have always considered a good vacuum cleaner as my most important accessory in my loading room.



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I think I am going to get the Grabber, I will let every one know when it comes in. I will keep my 600jr Mk5, but now I have to build a another reloading bench.

Thanks to all,

Jerry



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I love my older Grabber (Grabber 76), great tool.

As far as the "improvemetn" of the collet resizing preventing malfunctions in repeating shotguns, I am dubious of this.

My MEC history:
dad bought MEC 310 somewhere in the late 60's, shooting trap.
Also bout Browning Broadway for trap, and "Ole Hunchback", an A-5 for hunting, pheasant % quail.
I started hunting, and shooting our traploads in the early 1980's, in that A-5 self-shucker..
That press, like my 20-ga Versamec (gift from a now deceased friend who had no further use for it, before he died) I also have, has the old-style "re-sizing ring" setup, and the only "feeding troubles" I have ever had, in , oh lord I have no idea how many thousands upon thousands of rounds, trap and hunting loads, have been from the un-beveled crimp section in that old loader. Some of them kind of "make a ring" that sticks out, just a bit.
Un-skived hulls like Federals are worst, AA's, not nearly so bad.

Not saying the collet setup does nothing, I just have never had the supposed "problem" it "fixed".
Others may well have had different results, yours too may vary. :)



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I've been reloading12g RXP & 12 g AA hulls for years w/o sizing the base, the hulls I've had the most problems with are  federal gold medal target so I dump them in the trash .



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And I've had no troubles out of those. ;)

Too bad you don't live down the block. ;)



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I wish all of you lived down the block from me.

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The one thing I have noticed about our craft, the good stuff very seldomly shows up on the used market. I got my Star sizer from an estate sale.

Like a Rockchucker, once you have bought a good shotshell loader, they are a lifetime investment.

That is why I am asking questions, so far a MEC progressive looks like it's on the horizon for me.

Jerry



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miestro_jerry wrote:
I wish all of you lived down the block from me.

Jerry



we do ..it's just a rather large block :lol:



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On your way over Monday evening for some serious reloading, would you pickup a few things at the store for me?

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I used to shoot trap, i used a MEC 600 Jr and it was a good loader and still is, I still have it i inherited it when the good old friend passed away while i was quite young. I havent used it in many years, but i can say without a doubt that Mec loader are of the finest of quality.



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You should consider a Spolar shotshell reloader.

It loads great shells at a rate of one finished shell faster than one every 4 seconds.  Your wife can load a whole day of trap loads in the time it takes you to pack the guns and gear in the truck.

Easiest to change loads that I have experienced.

Change gauges in under fifteen minutes.  Go from 12 gauge trap loads for your Browning to 16 gauge field loads for your Parker in no time.

Comes from the factory ready to fill the hoppers and load shells.  Have never made a single adjustment to it since received.

Complete DVD on how to run it.

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One of my friends bought one from our local dealer  initially he had some adjustment quirks but he worked them out and loads his shells with it.



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