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I tend to hang on to old reloading manuals and related books. Powders have changed over the years. But much of the data in these old manuals can be adapted to more recent components.
Now that I am in to reloading shot shells, I have purchased 3 older reloading manuals, 2 are older Lyman manuals, #2 and #3. Plus another one that I found that looks interesting. I do have the current Lyman manual and a couple of BPI manuals.
As far as any one good manual, I would say Lyman for metallic reloading.
The old Sierra Green Loose Leaf manual, you will find a mention of my name in it.
Knowledge is the key to good loading and old manuals are really great to have on hand.
Jerry
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Lyman's old "Cast Bullet Guide" is an excellent reference. Have no idea if they even publish anything like that today.
Try to find .25 Remington or .32/40 Winchester in current manuals!
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19th, 2009 11:31 PM |
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Charley,
I actually think they are in their 10th printing of that book.
Here are two NRA publications that everybody should have, but they are out of print:
Cast Bullets by Col. E.H. Harrison (ret.)
Handloading by William C. Davis, Jr.
The Davis book has information for the .32.-40 and the 25 Remington rounds.
Another book that I use aa a reference is The Home Guide To Cartridge Conversions by Heorge C. Nonte, Jr.
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I have the Handloading by William C. Davis, Jr.
It was my first hand loading manual. I still look at it all the time.
Have a good one, Guy
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I picked up a book called The Precision Shooting Reloading Guide. I just started reading it and it is good so far. I have also recently started reading Handloader Magazine. Lots of great articles in there.
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geez i forget how many times i used cartridges of the world for a "sleep aid" almost as bad is the handloaders digest lolz , i have a few old lyman's and others, let me just say that they are well worn ,they really need to update the cast bullet handbook instead of reprinting it , sadly my first issue copy is kinda tattered too lolz and quite often i still find a good load in yesteryear's loadbooks, the new lyman's especially leave me feeling that it's lacking IMO #'s 45-47th were/are the best !!
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Phil Sharpe's Complete Guide to Handloading is an oldie and goodie, as is Donnelly's The Handloader's Manual of Cartridge Conversions. Some of his conversion guidelines make more sense than Nonte's I believe.
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I wonder where I can borrow or buy a copy of the Donnelly Manual, I will try Amazon.
Just checked Amazon, Wow! $240 to $275 for this book, does it do the work for you?
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I've got some old books and manuals. One right here is Lyman Handbook of Cast Bullet's, no idea how old it is. Have anothe somewhere that I used to find load data for Super Balistite and Pistol powder #6. I still have about eight pounds of #6, don't work to bad! Super Balistite burns about the same as Bullseye, I use it in my 32 Long.
I also have a book here bought new in March of 1942 in Portland, Ore by a friends dad. Complete Guide to Handloading X Phil Sharpe. Really an intresting book. 463 pages with a 70 page supplement. Has loading data for .228 Lovell, 6mm Lee, .224 Lightning Krag 25/20 Rem,.276 Dubiel, 30 Newton and other's you don't often see data for any more.
This might be of intrest with the zinc wheel weight's everywhere. Here's a few loads for the 30-06 using 114gr zinc cast bullet's!
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I would be interested in any information on zinc cast bullets.
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i recall reading of the old "dual"bullet lyman used to make zinc base expoxied to a soft lead nose (lyman #46 if i recall correctly) as well as the older cast in place scraping washer, worse i also recall when i got zinc in my melt lolz but i have to admit that i'm curious too ....
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I couldn't find anything in my Lyman 45th Edition on Zinc Cast Bullets.
So now I am really curious.
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Jerry
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miestro_jerry wrote: I wonder where I can borrow or buy a copy of the Donnelly Manual, I will try Amazon.
Just checked Amazon, Wow! $240 to $275 for this book, does it do the work for you?
Thanks,
Jerry
I bought it at a used book store, cost was about $10! Sometimes you get lucky!
Donnelly does have some convoluted conversions, though. His forming of 7.5x55 Swiss involves turning the rim from 7.62x54, cutting a new extractor grove, annealing, sizing, and fire forming. I just run .284 Winchester thru a 7.5x55 sizing die.
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Jerry, I should have posted this sooner, of course, but was kinda busy getting ready for some surgery. Anytime you want to check something in Donnelly's let me know, and I'll either send post his technique, or the case data.
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Charley,
I understand about getting prepared, and thank you for the offer, I will now have to check some of my "odd caliber" rifles.
Thanks,
Jerry
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miestro_jerry wrote: I tend to hang on to old reloading manuals and related books. Powders have changed over the years. But much of the data in these old manuals can be adapted to more recent components.
Now that I am in to reloading shot shells, I have purchased 3 older reloading manuals, 2 are older Lyman manuals, #2 and #3. Plus another one that I found that looks interesting. I do have the current Lyman manual and a couple of BPI manuals.
As far as any one good manual, I would say Lyman for metallic reloading.
The old Sierra Green Loose Leaf manual, you will find a mention of my name in it.
Knowledge is the key to good loading and old manuals are really great to have on hand.
Jerry
Have a few myself...but I only go back as far as 1965 (Lyman, Speer).
Picked up the recent Speer and was more than a little annoyed to find they didn't have my .30 and .357 Herrett listed, whereas the new Hornady does...
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Old manuals, yep, and I never throw them away, as maestro said,they cointain still good, useful data.
I am trying to update a lot of my data tho, especially shotgun as almost all of it is circa 1983 or so.
Was talking to a co-worker who, I found out, handloads, rifle mostly (cal. unknown), and he expressed an interest in my Lyman 3rd edition shotgun manual. He also had a copy of Hornady 1st edition that he had to replace to get newer data on some WSSM round that wasn't in it. I was about to replace that high-mileage, well worn, dogeared, all written in Lyman 3rd anyhow, so now both books have new homes.
Gonna get a Lyman 5th next weekend.
I have a fair selection of powder-maker's data mostly, not much from the bullet makers, and then, the "independants" like Lee, Lyman, Handloading Digest, etc.
I have a couple Dupont phamplets that border on ancient.
Was just downloading some Accurate Arms data this AM (and to think, I don't use the powder hardly).
Can't have too much data for R&D comparisons when starting a loading.
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miestro_jerry wrote: I tend to hang on to old reloading manuals and related books. Powders have changed over the years. But much of the data in these old manuals can be adapted to more recent components.
Now that I am in to reloading shot shells, I have purchased 3 older reloading manuals, 2 are older Lyman manuals, #2 and #3. Plus another one that I found that looks interesting. I do have the current Lyman manual and a couple of BPI manuals.
As far as any one good manual, I would say Lyman for metallic reloading.
The old Sierra Green Loose Leaf manual, you will find a mention of my name in it.
Knowledge is the key to good loading and old manuals are really great to have on hand.
Jerry
Have a few myself...but I only go back as far as 1965 (Lyman, Speer).
Picked up the recent Speer and was more than a little annoyed to find they didn't have my .30 and .357 Herrett listed, whereas the new Hornady does...
D.
lyman no longer does either ...<_< but the newer sierra does ( but they didnt have the 375 jdj ...[sigh] lolz)
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i still use my first lyman manual that i got in 1973. i use it to cross check my data against the new data that you can pull off the net from the powder makers. i have found that the data in it is still good and sometimes better than current information. as all ways i run some rounds across the chronograph for a check of my work no matter how many times i have made that type of load.
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