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In the category of "this wasn't the smartest thing to do"........
JUDGE REJECTS CLAIM THAT PISTOL DIDN'T HAVE ADEQUATE WARNINGS . . . On Aug. 20, a judge ruled that Smith & Wesson wasn't to blame for an incident that caused a shooter to lose a finger (Foltz v. Smith & Wesson Corp.). In 2006, Roger Foltz was firing his .460 revolver and placed his finger between the cylinder and the back of the barrel. When he fired, the hot, pressurized gasses escaped in the area where he had placed his finger and partially amputated it. Smith & Wesson successfully argued the safety manual included with the pistol specifically and sufficiently warned users against placing their fingers where Foltz placed his. According to the court, makers and sellers of firearms have no duty to warn of the obvious dangers of owning or selling a handgun.
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"common sense isnt so common" is a quote that seems fitting in this instance
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MontanaShooter wrote: "common sense isnt so common" is a quote that seems fitting in this instance
I used to have, it's still on the internet someplace, a eulogy for Comon Sense, who, unfortunately, became deceased a few years back. 
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A friend of mine had a spam can of 7.62X54R and no can opener, he asked me with all seriousness do you think a air chisel would work to open it lol. Needless to say...i told him i dont think thatd be a good idea and involuntarily took a few steps back. So we used a plasma cutter instead. Just kidding lol. I havent let him forget about it either. :)
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Those are a mother to open, I have one. :( If I recall, I had a Key tho with mine.
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Well, DUH!
Let's all memorialize Foltz, from now on, whenever you are tempted to write on this forum, "well, he f**ked up", use the term, "He Foltzed up" instead. Least we can do, and not far off the mark.
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looks to me like DARWINISM in action................. you can fix stupid.........
LIFE IS SHORT..... shorter if you're stupid.......................
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Sounds like a common sense judgment on the part of the court. I appreciate that.
Mr. Foltz strikes me as a loser on two counts. One for not watching what he was doing and blowing off his finger, and Two for blaming his actions on someone else.
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Yep, common sense can be sorely lacking.
One time at the range, a young man was set to shoot his buddy's Walther PPK - he had shot revolvers before and tended to wrap his left thumb over the right (shooting) hand - I tried to caution him to NOT do this! he and the buddy ignored me.
He fired - he screamed - not too very much blood from the slide scraping his thumb raw.......  I bet he won't do THAT again.
Another time, a feller is trying to load .38 auto rounds into his .38 Special snubby. They were a bit too fat to fit in the chambers. I looked his gun and ammo over, and told him of the ammo problem - he decides to go back to the store he got the ammo from and exchange for the correct ammo. BUT..... a few minutes later I see him trying to hammer those over-sized rounds into his gun - I packed up and left. 
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Youtube makes my skin crawl. After 25 years as a range master, I get crazy watching stupid do as stupid does. That maroon had not one iota of eye protection.
Count Hollywood in on the how it is done for gun maroons. How many times do you see a movie where the maroon grabs the front of the cylinder with the off hand.
Everyone has to learn about a cylinder gap, the lucky ones learn from others.
Oh, bigdog, I was running a match one weekend when an older shooter showed up with a 44 automag. He was half way through the 40 round match when his wrist got tired. So, without thinking he reached up and put his left hand on top of his right wrist for support. Before I could stop him, he pulled the trigger. That 44 automag was loaded with 240s over a case full of 296. Ever see what a automag bolt will do to the top of a hand? It ain't pretty.
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Bigdog57 wrote: Yep, common sense can be sorely lacking.
One time at the range, a young man was set to shoot his buddy's Walther PPK - he had shot revolvers before and tended to wrap his left thumb over the right (shooting) hand - I tried to caution him to NOT do this! he and the buddy ignored me.
He fired - he screamed - not too very much blood from the slide scraping his thumb raw....... I bet he won't do THAT again.
Another time, a feller is trying to load .38 auto rounds into his .38 Special snubby. They were a bit too fat to fit in the chambers. I looked his gun and ammo over, and told him of the ammo problem - he decides to go back to the store he got the ammo from and exchange for the correct ammo. BUT..... a few minutes later I see him trying to hammer those over-sized rounds into his gun - I packed up and left.
OK, tellin' one on myself. 
Ks. State IDPA match, August 2001 (just before "the war"). 
I am a Northpaw, weilding a 1911A1 clone. Now the stage is set.
Scenario had me sitting in my La-Z-Boy armchair, loaded .45 on the end table right of me, when a sudden home invasion put 3 baddies in front of me. A large table similar to a card table was between us. Range, about 20 feet.
Course of fire demanded I pick up pistol, put in off/weak hand, then, advance to the table roll it onto it's side (far legs were actually anchored and hinged), taking cover arround the side of the table, put 2 rounds in each chest, weak-hand, supported.
We shot this 2x, first time strong hand, seccond time weak hand.
I addressed and handled the gun just fine, removed strong hand, while maintaining barrel controll and direction, used free hand and gun-shoulder-wrist-forearm to flip table (was not a heavy table), took cover, re-addressed right hand to the Artillery Launcher, planted the sights high-center-chest, and shot first bad guy.
I then uttered an unspeakable, similar to "OW!! Drat!!", kept my mind about me, adjusted my right hand, and finished the stage.
The slide missed me, the hammer, on the "other hand", grabbed the top of my right thumb knuckle, nearest the hand, pinched it between it and the beavertail, and removed a bite, about 1/2 the size of a pencil eraser, driven by a 180gr LSWC at about 1000fps.
The best part, is that:
A- I did know better than to grip my .45 in a revolver grip,
B- I don't shoot a revolver (at this time), period, although I have in the past, 
C- We were explicitly warned to be careful, or you could easilly do as I just did, mis-grasp in a hurry, and get yourself bitten, 
D- I was the FIRST to get bitten, but not the last, 
E- It wasn't deep and I'm not a Hemophilliac, so I didn't bleed long, and it really didn't hurt that much.
I've made some mistakes, being human, just never any disastrous ones.
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