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i am handloading a s&w 500 with h110 31 grains and a 500 grain flat nose hard cast gas check bullet. i have not handloaded pistol rounds only 308 rifle in the past. my question is dealing with the crimp. i spoke with rcbs (i have a rockchucker press) and they walked me through the way to adjust the die to get the bullet seating depth and crimp.
my problem is i get a spider web thin brass wire hair from the top of the case near the crimp when i remove the round from the press. is this a problem? how do i fix this if it is a problem. the length of the hair is about half the diameter of a case with a soft bend as it is being shaved from the top of the case...
the other issue is when i was trying to get the bullet depth correct the first four were seated and crimped just past the crimp grove in the lead. can i shoot the bullets? the case isnt wrinkled its just the bullet is seated past the crimp grove where it was cast by leadhead bullets.
thanks for your advice.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 09:25 PM |
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Are you over crimping? Is the case bulged out at all? If you have factory rounds on hand try to compare them. You will need a firm crimp on that round but the crimping die should never damage the case or the bullet if installed correctly.
A pic of your rounds would help. Also, this thread has good pics in it of a loaded round:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=473727
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| Posted: Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 09:51 PM |
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the case is not buldging and the crimp is in the middle of the grove..it has a taper look similar to some lead bullets that i have bought for the 500 but not shot.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 4th, 2009 12:39 AM |
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was the sliver brass or bullet jacket ? the first thing that pops in my head id did u chamfer the cases followed by was the bell enough to start the bullet ?
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| Posted: Wed Nov 4th, 2009 02:34 AM |
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Check your bullet seating die for any residue and you may want to make seating and crimping two different dies.
Have you tried using a 50 AE taper crimp die on this, I am not sure if any one makes a taper crimp or factory crimp die this large, I know that Lee doersn't make one.
I had this problem with a 454 Casulls and just using 45 ACP taper crimp die solved the problem.
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What kind of brass are you using? I ran into this with new Starline brass in 454 Casull which for some reason seems thicker than other brass. This only happened on the first loading and everything was normal thereafter.
I fired the rounds with seemingly no ill effect, although this would be a perfect opportunity to blame my poor shooting that day on something besides myself. LOL
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| Posted: Wed Nov 4th, 2009 09:52 AM |
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the brass is star once fired and no i didnt chamfer the case after the flare...the tiny hair is brass not lead.
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was the once fire with jacketed cannelured bullets ? i often see rough edges on once fired brass that has,lead shouldnt shave the brass ( well it'd have to be a rather hard alloy lolz )on once fired brass that prolly wont need trimmed i usually chamfer before belling ,if u have some that u havent loaded try chamfering a wee bit and see if that stops it
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yes the once fired was with a hornday 375 grain jacketed soft point
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The times that I have shaved brass while loading was when the mouth did not have enough bell on it. In other words, the inside diameter of the case was smaller than the diameter of the bullet which caused the shaving. Once I increased the bell, problem went away. I had that problem with 45ACP and 357Mag.
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often factory ammo when crimped gets a lil saw type edge when crimped into a cannelure , i always remove this when it's there , if the brass is still under length spec's i merely trim it off and chamfer usually even when it doesnt have it i chamfer with any new to me brass but usually dont have to do it again until i have to trim it ,if u have some u havent loaded yet try it and see if it ends it great if not ...i'm stumped
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