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WHo isnt afriad to give there closest group information with us on a 308 150-200 gr bullet mainly 168 gr bullet ifno is possible but........let us know what kinda barrel/ twist or whatever for use with:
1. rifle powder,, etc.
2. gr weight
3. bullet and grain weight
4. bbl and twist ( is possible)
5. oal
I would like to see a pattern here with bolt gun and auto gun shooters
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The best group I ever shot was with: Nosler 165 grain ballistic tip, 47 grains of H414, Remington URBR cases, the one with small rifle primer, Remington 7 1/2 small rifle primer. The 10 shot hole was only slightly out of round. The rifle was a Remington 700 heavy varmint bedded and wearing a 6-20 Taco scope.
I shot a group with the same load but PMC cases and a Winchester magnum large rifle primer that measured 1/2 inch outside to outside.
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TC Icon - Box Stock 24" . 165 gr. Sierra with 42.5 gr. of IMR 4064 for 2740 FPS. Consistent at 1/2 inch for 3 shots. RP cases, RP 91/2 primers. Seated 10 thousandth off lands.
TC Icon - 168 Sierra with 42 gr. RL-15 for 2635 FPS. W-W cases, CCI 200 primer. Will put 3 shots into a neat hole.
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The load, 44.0 gr. of W-760, Sierra Pro-hunter 220 gr. round nose (CAUTION, MAX LOAD) Winchester brass and Winchester WLR primer. Velocity 2310 FPS. groups run from .375" to .50" at 100 yards.
Rifle is a Winchester Model 70 with 22" 1 in 12" twist berrel. Rifle sits in an El Cheapo Ramline stock, no special attempts at improving the bedding.
OH WAIT! The Egg-spurts in the gun rags say you can't shoot bullets that heavy in a 1 in 12" twist barrel and they say you cannot get decent velocity with a bullet that heavy from a .308.  Guess my gun didn't read that from any of the books I have.
FWIW, that same load shot from an 18.5" 1 in 10" barrel from a Ruger 77 RSI will do 2250 FPS with groups in the 1.25" to 1.50" range at 100 yards.
In either gun it sounds to me like that load would do just fine on hogs or Black Bear in the brush
An aside; one William David Maitland Bell who killed over 1,100 elephants using a 7x57 Mauser on 800 of those elephants once opined that the .308 Win. with a 220 gr. full metal jacket bullet at about 2200 FPS just might be the perfect elephant gun. (For him, I might add.)
At 2310 FPS, that's only 90 FPS slower than the advertised factory velocity from the 30-06. Doesn't look so shabby when you look at it that way. 
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1. rifle - Remington 40X and Springfield Ultra Match M1A
2. gr weight: IMR 4895, 41.5 grains
3. bullet and grain weight, Sierra 168 Match King HPBT
4. bbl and twist M1A - 1 in 10, 40X in 1 in 12
5. oal- 2.810 +/- .005 with digital calipers
6. Brass - IMI and Lapua Match Brass
7. Primers CCI (Currently), prefer Winchester Match Primers
8. Reloading Dies - RCBS From Fred Huntington, neck sizer and SB sizer and several other dies as needed.
9. Reloading press - Dillon 550
10. Scales - PACT with Powder Dispenser
11. FM
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come on who else has somemore info
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Maybe you should approach this from a different direction, punching paper is O.K., but how about all of those people who have taken game at long ranges?
My middle son uses a 308 win bolt gun for hunting elk. He uses a Barnes 165 grain MRX BT bullet, 43.5 grains of Varget, In a 700 BDL. He gets one every year.
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thanks good idea Jerry
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miestro_jerry wrote: Maybe you should approach this from a different direction, punching paper is O.K., but how about all of those people who have taken game at long ranges?
My middle son uses a 308 win bolt gun for hunting elk. He uses a Barnes 165 grain MRX BT bullet, 43.5 grains of Varget, In a 700 BDL. He gets one every year.
Jerry
how long has this bullet been out or is he a tester for Hornady??? I thought this one is or last years creation? thanks for the help anyways
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For my bone stock Remington LTR my best load has been 41.2 grns of IMR-4064,Remington Primers,LC 93 Match Brass at 2.005 and Seirra 175's. One jagged hole at 100 yrds with five shots. Not a hot load but very consistent and predictable. And I always though Remington 1/12 barrels were not very good for 175's!!
For my M1A NM, 41.5 grns of IMR-4895,LC 93 Match brass at 2.005 ,Remington Primers and Seirra 168's.
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tc arms encore 130 grain tsx 4350 powder i will have to dig out my info but will post it later but was shooting .5" at 100 yards. i ran out and got some of frd fusion and that stuff is amazing/ when i got it dialed in with just a few shots i was shooting sub moa groups at a 100 yards. i want to get that load data somehow and use it for my 150gr bullet loads. if anyone knows any info on the fusion set up please let me know
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I had a screamer group of .191 @ 100 yds. 5 shot group with my Tikia T3 varmit shooting 168 Horn Amax, Horn. Match brass, 44 grains of R-15, CCI BR primers, 2.875 oal, but this load will always shoot .5 or under  Last edited on Fri Aug 7th, 2009 10:04 PM by Kilkenny
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With 168 a-max and 39.1 grains of 3031 put 10 shot group in .6 hole 100 yards.
39.5 of IMR 4895 gave almost save group
not a hot load but very accurate. Savage 110 26" stainless savage barrel.
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Why stop at 200 gr. bullets? Why not at least include the 220 gr. round nose?
I get 2310 FPS from a Winchester M70, 22" barrel with 44.0 gr. of W-760. (CAUTION max load. start two grains beload that load and work up.) Now that's only 100 FPS less than factory advertised 220 gr. bullet loads for the 30-06. Never saw a critter that could tell the difference twixt the two.  I use Winchester brass, WLR primer and the Sierra 220 gr. round nose bullet. I don't think a 220 gr. spitzer boattail will stabilize in the winchester's 1 in 12" twist but the Sierra RNs do just fine. groups run in the .375" to .50" range at 100 yards. Fron aa 18.5" barrel (Ruger M77 RSI) velocity is a bit slower at 2250 FPS. That rifle is extremely fussy about what runs through it's barrel and groups run 1.25" to 1.50", still good enough for hunting.
Of course, all the high velocity dudes will go ho hum at the speeds for these two rifles but they do work within their useful range and hey work very well.
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41.gr n-140 under a 168gr horn a-max in a savage heavy barrel, just under .5 in group at 100 yds, right at .9in at 200
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This will show my age, but a long time ago, in the Army for match shooting, we used to pull the bullet out of a standard issue 7.62 NATO round and replace it with a Sierra 168 grain BTHP. I think the Marines started this idea.
It works and well.
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An oldie but a goodie... 42 gr IMR 4064 with a 175 SMK, CCI 200 and Winchester brass. This shoots well under 1 moa in my M1a super match and under 1/2" in my Savage bolt gun. You can bump that to 42.5 with a Sierra 165 HPBT game king, it has always been thrillingly accurate in all of my 308's.
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Has any one used Accurate 2520? I loaded 42.9 gr and 150 PSP rem bullet CCI200 primer.
The load seems hot and not consistent. Any ideals?
Shooting with a 7400 REM
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Best load out of my LR308 got me 4 shots at 300 yrds in 1.330", take away the flyer, the remaining 3 hits were .692.
Any other AR platform shooters outhere that are looking for the ultimate in accuracy please let me know as I am new to this site...I sure wish there were more of us out there.
Bullet: 155 Hornady A-Max
Powder: 35.5 Varget
Brass: Winchester, neck turned, primer pocket uniformed, flash hole deburred, case trimmed to 2.005
Primer: CCI BR 2
Bullet seated .010 off the lands
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Sparky wrote: Has any one used Accurate 2520? I loaded 42.9 gr and 150 PSP rem bullet CCI200 primer.
The load seems hot and not consistent. Any ideals?
Shooting with a 7400 REM
Thanks
I'm shooting 41 grains at 2531 fps in Nosler brass with 210m primers and the 190SMK and getting an inch at 200 but 38.5 is giving me closer to 1/2" at 200 but only 2380fps. which will only run about 1100fps at a 1000. 41.5 actually shoots the tightest groups but to hot for extended fire, was pushing the bullet at 2610. Would get a snug bolt on 5 round and of course flat primers but group was .378 all were 5 shot groups. Soon as I get another 500 I'm going to retest in some full prepped winchester cases with the necks turned. I'm shooting a Savage 10FCP with the HS stock and a SSS trigger set at 12oz and a Nightforce 12 x 42 NXS scope. Lug has been bedded and a skim bed on the stock with a 11*cut just on the edge of the crown. I haven't tried the 190's since I hand lapped it but it cut a third off my groups with the 175's and eliminated the bad cold bore shot. Everything is within the groups now. Cold bore use to be 3/8 to 1/2" out of the picture about 75% of the time but now it's right in the center of things every time since I lapped it. My rifle is a 1/10 and likes the heavier bullets to the point it shoots tighter groups with the 190's at 200 than 100 which is good news since I want to start shooting at 1000 next year and may make it yet this year. I've got a really good looking load with 45 grs of Varget and the 175's in fully prepped Winchester brass with the necks turned as close to .012 as I can get them. Several still has some places around .0115 in them, just couldn't make myself turn them to .011. I'm just running .002 tension on the necks of both loads and .005 off the lands. As I play with the seating a little more groups are starting to close up some. Already managed 4 shots through the same hole 2 times in the last 10 groups since lapping at a 100. Still working on getting my shoulder in the same place and locking up with it. The biggest problem now is a consistent hold on the rifle. Once I get that down it will be time to start learning more about miriage, I can deal with the wind pretty well, as luck would have it that will probably be next year since it's starting to cool off. Will probably take most of the winter just to teach myself to hold the rifle the same way every time I sit behind it.
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