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  • Hornady XTP Bullseye powder

    Can someone give me the Bullseye powder load for 158gr XTP, 124gr XTP for a Ruger?
    Also 124gr for a 9mm auto?
    Thanks
    Vietnam Vet USMC

  • #2
    Hello nomes. What are you loading up? 38spl? 357mag?

    You'll get a lot more help listing all the info you can so members know what it is you are asking.

    You can also get help here:

    http://www.alliantpowder.com/resourc...ant_Powder.pdf

    but they don't show much Bullseye except for lead cast in either 38 or 357. Do have some 9mm/Bullseye data, tho.
    Last edited by olyeller; 10-08-2017, 19:02.
    Wimachtendienk, Wingolauchsik, Witahemui

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    • #3
      For 38 Special I use red dot, for 357 I use h110
      (With the XTP bullet)
      Salt&Light

      WOODSMAN777

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      • #4
        I like bulls-eye in my 357 but that's with a 148gr wad cutter stepping out to some silly speeds.

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        • #5
          A 158 gr. XTP sounds like it's for either 38 special or .357 magnum, but without knowing I can't safely answer your question.

          The 124 gr. would likely be something for an auto loading rimless cartridge, 9mm or the like. Hornady doesn't make a 124 gr. XTP for 38/357.

          So if you can clarify what cartridges you are wanting to load each of these XTP for, than I'd be more than happy and capable of providing published data for you.

          HBC

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          • #6
            Should be able to find what you want here, has much old alliant data. As others have said, without more info from you, it's only guess what you're loading for. http://handloads.com/loaddata/defaul...Source=Alliant
            Quote from the Rev. Martin Niemöller, a Holocaust survivor:

            First, they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out -- because I was not a Socialist.

            Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out -- because I was not a Trade Unionist.

            Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out -- because I was not a Jew.

            Then they came for me -- and there was no one left to speak for me.

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            • #7
              .357 mag blackhawk
              9mm Ruger LC9
              (Hornady doesn't make a 124 gr. XTP for 38/357.) I'm sorry that is a 38 125gr.
              Vietnam Vet USMC

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              • #8
                Or can I use the same load data for Cast bullets?
                Vietnam Vet USMC

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                • #9
                  The same cast bullet load, will be slower and have higher pressure, if you use jacketed bullet. How much higher pressure and slower speed, is dependent on powder chosen. I just checked and link, I provided above, gives you mfg's starting point for jacketed bullet and bullseye, that would be safer starting point, than cast data.
                  Quote from the Rev. Martin Niemöller, a Holocaust survivor:

                  First, they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out -- because I was not a Socialist.

                  Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out -- because I was not a Trade Unionist.

                  Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out -- because I was not a Jew.

                  Then they came for me -- and there was no one left to speak for me.

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                  • #10
                    124 gr. XTP (9mm) - Sierra data is 3.5 gr. - 4.4 gr. for a 125 gr. Bullseye (Jacketed)

                    38 spcl - 125 gr. XTP - Hornady data - 4.5 gr. - 5.3 gr. Bullseye

                    Be careful confusing bullet weights like that, it can get you into some serious trouble.

                    HBC

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                    • #11
                      Just looking at specks for .357 125 gr JSP and GDHP 7.3 to 8.4 bullseye.
                      That looks like a lot of powder. I think that .38 was about 4.9 to start.
                      Vietnam Vet USMC

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                      • #12
                        If you're using a jacketed bullet, which the XTP is, then use the book load tables for the cartridge you are loading. In other words, don't second guess the published data, so if the published data for .357 mag. states 7.3 - 8.4 gr. then use that data, but don't compare it with 38 spcl. data, they are two very different cartridges. 38 spcl. operates at around half the PSI of .357 mag.,or around 17,000 psi, where as .357 mag. operates at a SAAMI max of like 35,000 psi. So if you reduce charges intended for .357 mag. down to 38 special published data you could end up with squibs, and depending on the powder you may experience a detonation, which is not a good thing. Published data is good, it's safe and should be used as published.

                        HBC

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                        • #13
                          Be extremely careful using Bullseye in long revolver cases like 38/357. It is EXTREMELY EASY to accidentally double or even triple charge the case and miss spotting the mistake.
                          Come up with as foolproof and thorough a set of procedures to prevent this as you can, and follow them absolutely.

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                          • #14
                            Nobody else has brought it up, so here goes.

                            In 357, Bullseye and other fast powders are better suited for target loads, than full house hunting or defensive loads. For full house loads slower powder, gives you, in most cases, higher speed, at a more gradual pressure curve. Powders like 2400 and H110 will give you several hundred FPS, at a safe pressure, over fast powder, if that's what you're looking for. 2400 has a wider useful range, medium to full loads, than H110 full loads only.

                            Unless you're looking for a reduced recoil defensive load, it seems a waste to shoot expensive bullet, like XTP on targets.

                            I shoot two types of revolver loads, target loads with Bulleye and full house loads with H110/W296.
                            Quote from the Rev. Martin Niemöller, a Holocaust survivor:

                            First, they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out -- because I was not a Socialist.

                            Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out -- because I was not a Trade Unionist.

                            Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out -- because I was not a Jew.

                            Then they came for me -- and there was no one left to speak for me.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RobertMT View Post
                              Nobody else has brought it up, so here goes.

                              In 357, Bullseye and other fast powders are better suited for target loads, than full house hunting or defensive loads. For full house loads slower powder, gives you, in most cases, higher speed, at a more gradual pressure curve. Powders like 2400 and H110 will give you several hundred FPS, at a safe pressure, over fast powder, if that's what you're looking for. 2400 has a wider useful range, medium to full loads, than H110 full loads only.

                              Unless you're looking for a reduced recoil defensive load, it seems a waste to shoot expensive bullet, like XTP on targets.

                              I shoot two types of revolver loads, target loads with Bulleye and full house loads with H110/W296.

                              I have to agree 100% with Robert; save the expensive bullets for their intended purposes. I cast a 158gr SWC for my 357Mag GP100 and also my Henry lever gun and load them down to about 1200fps for plinking and up to about 1600fps for more serious plinking.
                              Although I've taken one deer with the LSWC, I've taken 4 with the 158gr XTP HP with great success. I load the XTP to a little over 1800fps. FWIW, I can and do load the LSWC up to the same level as the XTP and they hit same POI at 75YDS.

                              Loaded to same POI with same charge of powder makes for cheap practice when using the LSWC.
                              Wimachtendienk, Wingolauchsik, Witahemui

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