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    Does anybody have and pet loads for hornady bullets? I have three different bullets and I can't get any of them to shoot all that well even the 75gr bthp match. Ive tried ladders with cfe 223, H335, and varget
    Thanks guys

  • #2
    Which bullets, what caliber, what rifle, what components are you using?
    What do you mean by "ladders"? Several definitions are being used for "ladders".
    Sounds like you are loading 223, but not enough information to help you.
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    • #3
      I do not recommend you use this unless you independently verify it in a widely published manual and work you way to this load, but this is the standard somewhat middle-of-the-road load I use in my AR's for H335:

      LC Brass
      Hornady .223
      55 gn FMJBT
      CCI BR4
      25.3 gn Hodgdon H335
      OAL 2.2250
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      • #4
        My experience is with the tipped Hornady 75 A-max. They are a very frustrating thoroughbred. Crazy long secant ogive that is very sensitive to consentricity. No use trying to bend them straight with a hard neck so fire up the annealer. Dust off the consentricity tool and try to remember how to squeeze the runout away. Then figure out how much jump they need. If you plan on loading these in a progressive or not having all the case prep perfect you are wasting your time and money, just stick with 55's. I'll just say I'm over 24gr of Varget using the 75's in a 1:8. Do your proper work up to get there.
        Endeavor to persevere.

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        • #5
          Most load data for .223 is derived using a slower twist barrel and the heavier 68gr-80gr perform best with faster twist (1.7-1.8) ones. My pet load is for the 68gr. Hornady Match, but my barrel is a 1.9 twist, so the odds of it performing well in your rifle are fairly high.

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          • #6
            I bought some Sierra match-kings because I was frustrated. I loaded some up and they shot so much better so ill be switching to those for my precision AR.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DesertMarine View Post
              Which bullets, what caliber, what rifle, what components are you using?
              What do you mean by "ladders"? Several definitions are being used for "ladders".
              Sounds like you are loading 223, but not enough information to help you.
              Im shooting an AR with a 1:8 twist in 5.56. I have just a bulk hornady 62 grain, Hornady 75 grain bthp match, and 60 grain hornady v max. Primers are Winchester small rifle primers. Brass is lake city. I have H335, cfe 223, and varget for powders.

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              • #8
                Disregard my information. The 75 A-Max doesn’t work other than single shot in AR’s.
                69 and 77 SMK’s are the way to go.
                Endeavor to persevere.

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                • #9
                  Seems like the 60 gr VMax should shoot good.
                  Maybe your AR just doesn't like those bullets, try a 55 gr bullet.
                  I use varget in mine with Nosler bulk 55 gr bullets, with 1:9" twist. CFE 223 does pretty good.
                  What powder charge are you using and OAL.
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                  • #10
                    the 60gr V-max should certainly shoot well. it's the second choice in my 1-8's.
                    my first choice is a bullet I swage myself based on the 63gr smp bullet by sierra slightly modified to fit the 5.56 throat better.
                    both will do right at or just under 1/2" for 10 shots consistently.

                    your rifle might like a faster powder better I have good luck with H-322, and AA-2230.
                    I use the 4895/AA-2495 speed with 50-55gr bullets, as well as the above mentioned AA-2230.

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                    • #11
                      Here are the ones I have under 1 MOA tested @ 200yds (BOLD are under 0.5 MOA despite ES) that match your Hornady bullet Weights for a AR 16" 8 twist bbl (2 different guns... thus the different fps for same load- components and/or one bbl faster than the other...)

                      CAUTION: This post discusses loads or load data that may or may not be appropriate for your gun or for the cartridge(s) and components mentioned. Due to typos, variations in guns and components, and the abilities and judgement of users of this data, neither the writer, Handloadersbench.com, nor the staff of Handloadersbench.com assume any liability for damage or injury resulting from using this information. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO DUPLICATE THE DESCRIBED LOADS without first working them up from a published safe starting level charge while watching for pressure signs. If you don't know how to do that please don't try, for your own safety and the safety of others.
                      bbl b.Gr b.Type Brand pType pGR Avg.FPS SD ES OAL Primer Case
                      16"-8 60 JSP Hornady AA-2015 24.0 2888 24 67
                      16"-8 75 OTM Hornady Match AA-2460 24.0 2680 28 73 2.26" CCI-450 HB (82)
                      16"-8 75 OTM Hornady Match AA-2495 22.8 2408 38 118 2.26" CCI-450 HB (82)
                      16"-8 75 OTM Hornady Match AA-2495 22.8 2418 19 50 2.26" CCI-450 HB (82)
                      16"-8 75 OTM Hornady Match.moly AA-2520 23.5 2510 23 53 2.26" CCI-400 R-P
                      16"-8 75 OTM Hornady Match AA-2520 23.5 2556 82 213 2.26" S&B R-P
                      16"-8 75 OTM Hornady Match.moly AA-2520 24.0 2478 25 63 2.26" CCI-400 R-P
                      16"-8 75 OTM Hornady Match.oem OEM OEM 2601 32 83 2.25" OEM Hornady
                      16"-8 75 OTM Hornady Match Re-15 23.5 2419 30 71 2.32" Rem 7.5 HB (82)
                      16"-8 75 OTM Hornady Match.moly Re-15 24.0 2420 19 46 2.26" CCI-400 R-P
                      16"-8 75 OTM Hornady Match Re-15 24.0 2509 15 41 2.32" Rem 7.5 HB (82)
                      16"-8 75 OTM Hornady Match Re-15 24.5 2555 35 88 2.255" Rem 7.5 HB (82)
                      16"-8 75 OTM Hornady Match.moly Varget 23.5 2430 22 48 2.26" CCI-400 R-P
                      16"-8 75 OTM Hornady Match Varget 23.5 2528 14 30 2.26" FC HB (82)
                      16"-8 75 OTM Hornady Match Varget 23.8 2455 25 58 2.32" Rem 7.5 HB (82)
                      16"-8 75 OTM Hornady Match Varget 23.8 2524 31 74 2.32" Rem 7.5 HB (82)
                      II can't recall every load I've tested off-hand and some of these may be on the warm side so, drop these loads 5-10% and work up your loads from there ...
                      Last edited by Silvertip; 1 week ago.
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                      • #12
                        In case you want to try these loads- they were fired in various 16" & 18" 7-twist barrels... All were tested at 200 yds and are under 1 moa (bold are under 0.5 MOA)
                        Same disclaimer as above applies...
                        Gun bbl b.Gr b.Type Brand pType pGR Avg.FPS SD ES OAL Primer Case
                        Mossberg 16"-7 60 JSP Hornady H-335 26.0 2817 42 110 2.245" S&B LC-14
                        Spikes 18"-7 60 PolyTip Hornady V-Max TAC 24.0 2731 34 91 2.245" CCI-400 IMI
                        Spikes 18"-7 60 PolyTip Hornady V-Max TAC 24.3 2756 17 45 2.25" CCI-400 IMI
                        Spikes 18"-7 60 PolyTip Hornady V-Max TAC 24.6 2864 24 61 2.25" CCI-400 IMI
                        Colt.M4 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.surp IMI AA-2230 24.5 2822 16 38 2.25" S&B LC-70's
                        Colt.M4 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.surp IMI AA-2230 24.5 2836 21 68 2.25" Wolf.cu PMC
                        Colt.M4 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.surp IMI AA-2230 24.5 2845 19 53 2.25" WSR PMC
                        Colt.M4 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.surp IMI AA-2230 24.5 2896 22 55 2.25" CCI-450 PMC
                        Colt.M4 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.surp IMI AA-2230 24.8 2879 8 18 2.25" WSR PMC
                        Colt.M4 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.surp IMI AA-2230 24.8 2908 14 34 2.25" CCI-450 PMC
                        Colt.M4 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.surp IMI AA-2230 25.1 2932 19 44 2.25" WSR PMC
                        Colt.M4 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.surp IMI AA-2230 25.1 2943 19 45 2.25" CCI-450 PMC
                        Colt.M4 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.surp IMI AA-2230 25.4 2968 12 32 2.25" WSR PMC
                        Mossberg 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.surp IMI AA-2460 23.6 No Data
                        Mossberg 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.surp IMI AA-2460 24.0 2808 15 42 CCI-41 S&B
                        Colt.M4 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.surp IMI AA-2460 24.0 2818 50 109 2.25" CCI-400 S&B +PMP
                        Colt.M4 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.surp IMI AA-2460 24.3 2709 55 129 2.25" CCI-450 PMC
                        Colt.M4 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.surp IMI AA-2460 24.3 2746 24 62 2.25" WSR PMC
                        Mossberg 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.surp IMI AA-2460 24.5 2718 26 71 2.25" CCI-450 LC-70's
                        Colt.M4 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.surp IMI AA-2460 24.5 2749 16 41 2.25" CCI-450 PMC
                        Mossberg 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.surp IMI AA-2460 24.8 2705 34 96 2.25" CCI-450 LC-70's
                        Mossberg 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.surp IMI AA-2460 25.1 2749 36 89 2.25" CCI-450 LC-70's
                        Mossberg 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.surp IMI AA-2460 25.4 2790 16 42 2.25" CCI-450 LC-70's
                        Mossberg 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.surp IMI AA-2460 25.7 2829 32 221 2.25" CCI-450 LC-70's
                        Colt.M4 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.surp IMI BLc2 25.0 2654 10 22 Wolf.cu HB (82)
                        Mossberg 16"-7 62 FMJ Armscor BLc2 25.9 2573 21 55 2.24" S&B WCC
                        Mossberg 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.mil LC Mil.Surp OEM 2887 17 41 OEM OEM LC-14
                        Mossberg 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.mil LC Mil.Surp OEM 2888 25 81 OEM OEM LC-15
                        Spikes 18"-7 62 FMJ M855.mil LC Mil.Surp OEM 3034 19 49 OEM OEM LC-15
                        Mossberg 16"-7 62 FMJ M855.surp IMI Varget 25.0 2639 22 44
                        Spikes 18"-7 62 JSP Rem Core Locked AA-2230 24.5 2957 24 67 2.22 CCI-450 WCC
                        Spikes 18"-7 62 JSP Rem Core Locked BLC2 25.0 2676 38 77 2.22 CCI-450 WCC
                        Spikes 18"-7 62 JSP Rem Core Locked BLC2 25.9 2800 26 63 2.20" CCI-450 WCC
                        Spikes 18"-7 62 JSP Rem Core Locked BLC2 25.9 2839 47 113 2.20" WSR R-P
                        Spikes 18"-7 62 JSP Rem Core Locked BLC2 25.9 2856 24 65 2.20" WSR WCC
                        Spikes 18"-7 62 JSP Rem Core Locked H-335 24.2 2679 31 81 2.20" WSR R-P
                        Spikes 18"-7 62 JSP Rem Core Locked H-335 24.2 2806 28 74 2.20" WSR WCC
                        Spikes 18"-7 62 JSP Rem Core Locked H-335 24.2 2972 13 30 2.20" WSR R-P
                        Spikes 18"-7 62 JSP Rem Core Locked H-335 24.4 2747 47 93 2.20" WSR R-P
                        Spikes 18"-7 62 JSP Rem Core Locked H-335 24.6 2814 12 31 2.20" WSR R-P
                        Spikes 18"-7 62 JSP Rem Core Locked H-335 24.7 2859 55 141 2.20" WSR R-P
                        Spikes 18"-7 62 JSP Rem Core Locked H-335 25.2 2835 40 107 2.20" WSR R-P
                        Spikes 18"-7 62 JSP Rem Core Locked H-335 25.5 2887 34 86 2.20" WSR R-P
                        Spikes 18"-7 62 JSP Rem Core Locked TAC 25.0 2846 38 67 2.210" S&B R-P
                        Spikes 18"-7 62 JSP Rem Core Locked TAC 25.5 2928 34 61 2.208" S&B R-P
                        Spikes 18"-7 62 JSP Rem Core Locked TAC 26.0 3013 22 43 2.205" S&B R-P
                        Spikes 18"-7 75 OTM Hornady Match AA-2460 23.7 2732 15 38 2.26 CCI-450 HB (82)
                        Mossberg 16"-7 75 OTM Hornady Match AA-2520 23.6 2342 22 55 2.26" CCI-450 HB (82)
                        Spikes 18"-7 75 OTM Hornady Match AA-2520 23.6 2530 34 78 2.26" CCI-450 HB (82)
                        Spikes 18"-7 75 OTM Hornady Match Re-15 23.8 2502 19 44 2.26 CCI-450 HB (82)
                        Mossberg 16"-7 75 OTM Hornady Match Varget 23.5 2455 16 41 2.26" Wolf.cu HB (82)
                        Spikes 18"-7 75 OTM Hornady Match Varget 24.3 2661 32 80 2.26" FC HB (82)
                        Mossberg 16"-7 75 OTM Hornady Match Varget 24.5 2577 16 48 2.27" Wolf.cu R-P
                        That's my opinion and I'm stick'n to it...
                        ...till I change my mind.

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